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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg so Chris O'Brien

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is on special assignment he has to work

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extra today after taking a trip out of

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town in the last week so since Chris

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isn't here we've called upon our friend

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for a moderator an occasional guest

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co-host got some acai to join us from

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his palatial estate deep in the caverns

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in Scotland right yeah right yeah that's

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me you're in a cavern find all five

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floors up what's a reverse you have

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antennae a two-bedroom cavern Oh a

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two-bedroom cavern okay but it's a

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reverse cavern because it's upstairs

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rather than below the surface we'd like

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to do things a bit differently here okay

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well that's okay

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I'm glad thinking different is good now

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I should tell our listeners that I just

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made this arrangement as we're doing the

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show for next week's episode of the

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power cast we don't normally do that you

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know we don't normally have the

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opportunity to book a guest so far in

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advance we kind of get these guests

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ready pretty quickly

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I had communication from Leslie Kane of

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course is a longtime investigative

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reporter and a author of a UFO book who

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is now part of a group called UFO data

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and UFO data is a project to set up a

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number of testing stations around the

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world to see if they could detect UFO

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activity

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so among the participants are mark

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Rutger who is the official with the J

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Leslie came and they will both be on the

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para cast this coming week we're going

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to focus obviously on solid UFO research

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a way to measure if possible what's

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going on which is a healthy change

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because there have been so many debates

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about UFOs over the years some very

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science is great have you read much

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about UFO data yet cogs M I've read a

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little and just really on the forums I

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count myself as a fan of their Leslie

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I bought her book I've heard mark on

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other shoes as well I'm I'm again I'm

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for anything that is data data

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collection to do with UFOs we just for

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whatever reason I know we can go into

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can debate forever as the reasons why

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academia and the mainstream science

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doesn't take UFO seriously or certainly

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not publicly take them seriously and

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anything any effort to kind of do it

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properly by the book write papers that

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kind of thing in terms of getting us

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accepted by mainstream science I don't

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think it can do any harm and it's

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certainly a million miles away from the

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Guru cloud and abductions and that kind

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of stuff which is going to turn a lot of

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people off on nice segue into abductions

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of course now I remember here at one of

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the International UFO Congress events in

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Arizona it's held in Fountain Hills near

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Phoenix there was a story about it and

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the story tried to imply this was a

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abducted by UFOs to kind of commiserate

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with each other which had very little to

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do with what the event was about not

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that UFO abductions were not discussed

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that was what it was all about now

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abductions is a pretty squirrelly kind

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of subject when you get into it because

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you have people who claim to have been

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taken out of their bedrooms or kidnapped

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along a country road at night and they

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meet up with either nice aliens although

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examinations but nonetheless they

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consider them nice aliens and they like

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them or nasty aliens who want to force

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them to help create a hybrid race and

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balada category

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dr. David Jacobs who was on the power

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cast just a few weeks ago that show has

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received more polarized reaction than

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any episode of the para cast I'd say in

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the last several years now Jacobs and

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his former partner the late Budd Hopkins

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were on the power cast in 2010 but in

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2015 as soon as we announced it in

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response to listeners who wrote messages

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in our form saying have him on we had

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people saying don't put him on how can

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you put them on do you know what he is

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because he had some kind of dust-up with

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one of his former test subjects in any

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case we had such a reaction back and

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forth that some people even said they

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would no longer subscribe to the power

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cast plus our premium service as a

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result of having a guest they didn't

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like on the show now unfortunately I

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hope that people who make decisions like

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that we realize that we have all sorts

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of guests through the years some you

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might like some you might not like but

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we'd rather hope that you don't go on

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strike because we get one guest that you

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don't like what do you think god well

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gene I mean for someone to say that you

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know they're gonna stop listening to the

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show of stop subscribing over one

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Episode regardless of who's on it who

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the person is to me that just speaks

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volumes about the emotion it just goes

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towards the kind of people who are true

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believers in either direction in that

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this stuff matters so much to them to

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their soul like a religion that if

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you've got a guy from the other side of

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the equation then you're with them

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you're the enemy you can't be my friend

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I can't listen to you it's just way too

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much emotion over I just don't get that

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cut up over any guests you get good

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shows you get bad shows you get

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interesting games you get guests you

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don't want to hear again but the end of

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the day they're just guests on a show

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there's just no need to take it that

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seriously and even though I love the

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subject UFOs and I am interested in what

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dr. David Jacobs has to say on the

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I'm not going to lose any sleep over it

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either way and I was just thinking as

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you were talking there about this hall

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I've said before on the show my problem

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mainly with alien abductions is not so

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much the idea of it it's it's this

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suppose at numbers you know that it's

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supposed to be even in the millions and

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the United States alone so how about

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this if we usually say what 2 to 5

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may actually be quite unexplained and

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that 2 to 5 percent of reported alien

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that have even got possibility of

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thought process start with are there

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to be constructed craft or whatever that

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there somebody must be behind them

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somebody must be controlling them so if

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they're here is it possible they may

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take an interest in the one supposedly

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one that's going into space who's making

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could they be interested in that life

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form yes I think so so just going

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through all these logical steps you know

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alien abduction might happen but I just

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as David Jacobs

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you know he you know what he's basically

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saying is it's just almost like tomorrow

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they're all going to come out it's all

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going to be revealed we'll be under

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alien martial law because that's the

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kind of numbers he's on about and that's

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the kind of seriousness he's on about in

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terms of well they've got hybrids that

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to how to live how to behave in civil

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bothers me is we've got an alien

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think the concept is frankly absurd

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as if they are brought up from childhood

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to live amongst us why can't they just

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go to our school so it doesn't make

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sense let's instead worrying about alien

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abductions let's go to Mars shall we

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let's go to Mars this week

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forget about abductions unless Martians

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are abducting us and for that we have

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dr. John Brandenburg and he is a veteran

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plasma physicist entering treacherous

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waters about what might be happening at

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Mars and wars to come this coming week

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from NASA so things that we talked about

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today may be supplanted or enhanced by

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that development Chris O'Brien's on

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special assignment guest co-host is cogs

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Makai dr. John Brandenburg coming up

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physicist get wrapped up in finding out

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what's happening on Mars yeah that is a

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very good question I mean I started out

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in this investigation as a freshly

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school to study controlled thermonuclear

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fusion the secret to much cleaner safer

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form of nuclear energy for the future

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and I worked on both I've worked

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primarily on magnetic fusion which is

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like another big tokamak and I also work

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on laser fusion which is a compressing

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pellets of hydrogen and making a

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miniature hydrogen bomb now in the

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process of that I learned a lot about

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hydrogen bomb physics because it's

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fusion so I came out of the graduate

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big-government laboratory Lawrence

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came out of there with a very broad

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background not only in plasma physics

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which is basically electricity and

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magnetism electrodynamics but also in

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nuclear physics so I was then at another

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lab I went to another government lab to

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work on directed energy weapons for the

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government I couldn't get a job they cut

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back on fusion energy research we were

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getting too close we're making too much

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progress as it turns out and I described

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this all of my book death on Mars but I

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ended up at a number another government

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lab in Albuquerque New Mexico Sandia

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National Labs and this was a big

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transition for me because for Thermo

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National Lab they've been run by the

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University of California

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and it was very much like a university

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campus and you know physics was the

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focus of course there were political

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battles about this or that but physics

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was the focus at Sandia Labs I was in an

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unfortunate situation where I found that

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politics someone somehow was getting in

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the way of progress on the project I was

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working on and I managed to push it

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disillusionment also the Cold War was in

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its iciest depths then and it was then

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that I heard about this face on Mars

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business the work of DiPietro and Mullen

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arm who had found two pictures of the

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face on Mars and enhanced them using the

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raw data and they'd also found a pyramid

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five kilometers away

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three-year-old daughter at the time and

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I thought oh this could end the Cold War

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and get us working on positive stuff

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again if we discover a dead civilization

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on Mars both the Russians and the

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Americans would drop everything and

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collaborate to get to Mars and this is

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in fact what Carl Sagan urged and this

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is right after the nuclear winter by the

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way which also involved Mars a dust

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storm on Mars showed that the United's

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in the United States the Soviet Union

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would survive a nuclear war because the

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incan a winter afterwards or kill more

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people than the actual fallout and

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explosions so I became involved in this

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somewhat reluctantly as you say Jean I

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was pushed way out of my comfort zone on

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this thing I thought what am i doing but

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when you find yourself part of an army

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marching over a cliff it seems like

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marching towards a thermonuclear war you

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feel like someone

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should do something and so I felt that

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if we could investigate this thing on

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Mars it might it might prevent a nuclear

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war okay now obviously we haven't had

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the nuclear war yeah well we Vince the

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Peter and I've congratulate each other

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several times usually after a few beers

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that

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Cold War with our our you know research

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but what happened was a Coulomb had

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organized a group of scientists and

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engineers to basically investigate and

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verify compete role in ours work it was

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called the independent Mars

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investigation team and we used a very

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early form of the Internet

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we all had phone modems you know

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terminals oh I remember what those were

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I had such a thing oh oh and my little

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daughter discovers if I ignored her she

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could come up and scream at me and it

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would make gibberish on the it would be

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picked up by the phone modem and

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gibberish so I discovered very quickly I

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had to give her a hug when she came by

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asking for attention well I was working

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on this thing so we were we would labor

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long into the night typing away and it

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was it was a little bit like being

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involved in you know the Hobbit you know

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suddenly you're here's just a hobbit

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minding his own business and suddenly a

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bunch of dwarves and his wizard descends

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on you one night and says we want you to

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join this big adventure and so we very

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quickly though found they got the tapes

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of the images and we very quickly were

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able to verify that Peter Molenaar had

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done really good work there was this

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face and there were multiple images and

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I brought my scientific training to this

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some of the other people were more

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hadn't been involved in kind of

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research I had been and I was able to

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bring my kind of sense of well how do

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you organize cutting-edge research let's

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talk about the cutting-edge research as

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it relates to Mars and more with dr.

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John Brandenburg with Jean Steinberg and

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[Music]

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this is a skirt 70 author us on the

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streets and you're listening to the para

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[Music]

626
00:27:17,070 --> 00:27:15,220
Chris O'Brien's on special assignment

627
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:17,080
with Roxy Makai on the show this week

628
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:18,690
we're talking to dr. John Brandenburg

629
00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:21,850
and of course in the past we've talked

630
00:27:26,820 --> 00:27:24,520
about his book death on Mars the

631
00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:26,830
discovery of a planetary nuclear

632
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:29,110
massacre now he's kind of wouldn't move

633
00:27:34,370 --> 00:27:31,360
through this very quickly here John

634
00:27:37,140 --> 00:27:34,380
talking about his early research now

635
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:37,150
where did that go where did that take us

636
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:38,559
is this where it ended up with this book

637
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:43,600
well the first question was are the

638
00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:46,720
pictures really authentic we verified

639
00:27:49,890 --> 00:27:47,980
yes they were authentic

640
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:49,900
they showed everything that the patron

641
00:27:56,490 --> 00:27:54,010
Molinar suggested we also found every

642
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:56,500
other possible picture we could in the

643
00:28:02,340 --> 00:27:59,679
files of the images even if from far

644
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:02,350
away because both images were taken the

645
00:28:06,690 --> 00:28:04,690
afternoon we wanted an image that was

646
00:28:09,180 --> 00:28:06,700
taken a morning just to light up the

647
00:28:11,850 --> 00:28:09,190
other side of the face and we found them

648
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:11,860
we found two and even though there were

649
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:15,910
not as high resolution the face was like

650
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:18,370
10 pixels across and the picture they

651
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:21,250
showed that the right left symmetry was

652
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:25,570
quite strong and we also asked the

653
00:28:30,180 --> 00:28:27,850
question okay how did it let's assume

654
00:28:32,490 --> 00:28:30,190
this is a civil is a dead civilization

655
00:28:35,310 --> 00:28:32,500
we're looking at was Mars ever capable

656
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:35,320
of supporting such a civilization and we

657
00:28:39,299 --> 00:28:36,970
discovered yes there was a lot of

658
00:28:42,750 --> 00:28:39,309
evidence that Mars used to have a much

659
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denser earth-like atmosphere his face

660
00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:45,280
had actually been a template basically a

661
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coastal city

662
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:49,990
so anyway gene we we made remarkable

663
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scientific progress and then we headed

664
00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:56,230
off to it was at my suggestion we headed

665
00:29:01,470 --> 00:28:58,240
off to the case for Mars to conference

666
00:29:04,770 --> 00:29:01,480
and presented a paper showing our

667
00:29:07,380 --> 00:29:04,780
investigation and you know everyone was

668
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:07,390
on the author list we got a lot of good

669
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:10,090
attention we had crowds standing in

670
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front of

671
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our poster we showed all the pictures

672
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:15,830
and then we would give a 20-minute

673
00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:18,650
summary I got to give the summary there

674
00:29:22,450 --> 00:29:20,240
was a person next to us at the paper

675
00:29:25,570 --> 00:29:22,460
next to us who got was very angry and

676
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:25,580
would try and shout over me and his name

677
00:29:30,250 --> 00:29:28,610
was Mike Malin he was advertising his

678
00:29:33,610 --> 00:29:30,260
new camera that he wanted to send to

679
00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:33,620
Mars you must remember that in 1984 Mars

680
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:35,990
had been declared dead and all the

681
00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:38,330
research money and interest was moving

682
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:40,640
off to the outer planets Jupiter Europa

683
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:45,050
Titan things like that so the Mars case

684
00:29:50,530 --> 00:29:47,170
for Mars people were actually trying to

685
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:50,540
resuscitate the Mars program one of the

686
00:29:55,090 --> 00:29:52,370
people who came to our talk with a guy

687
00:29:57,970 --> 00:29:55,100
named Hal Mazursky he then came down to

688
00:29:59,919 --> 00:29:57,980
Sandia Labs and gave a talk and I went

689
00:30:01,660 --> 00:29:59,929
out to lunch with him and he said you

690
00:30:03,460 --> 00:30:01,670
know we didn't know what to think about

691
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:03,470
your pictures but we really liked your

692
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:05,600
Mars ocean why don't you give a paper

693
00:30:11,410 --> 00:30:08,000
just on the Mars ocean at some

694
00:30:14,980 --> 00:30:11,420
scientific conference and I ended up

695
00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:14,990
leaving Sandia Labs partly because I

696
00:30:20,020 --> 00:30:17,059
helped save the project I was on and

697
00:30:23,380 --> 00:30:20,030
this embarrassed a senior a senior

698
00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:23,390
person on the project it was very mad at

699
00:30:27,010 --> 00:30:23,950
me

700
00:30:29,650 --> 00:30:27,020
he scores here John I just want to jump

701
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:29,660
back a bit a minute to get this right so

702
00:30:36,430 --> 00:30:33,850
that basically it was because you saw

703
00:30:38,740 --> 00:30:36,440
supposedly Shakti and the face on Mars

704
00:30:40,419 --> 00:30:38,750
that was kind of what set the goal

705
00:30:43,390 --> 00:30:40,429
ruling and you were looking back for

706
00:30:45,970 --> 00:30:43,400
something if there was a you know there

707
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:45,980
had to be a civilization in the past and

708
00:30:49,660 --> 00:30:47,450
if so hard to be a civilization there

709
00:30:51,970 --> 00:30:49,670
there probably had to be a breathable

710
00:30:55,330 --> 00:30:51,980
atmosphere Walter and Leo see like

711
00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:55,340
basically earth-like conditions yes I'm

712
00:31:00,130 --> 00:30:56,809
just going to go specifically do you

713
00:31:03,330 --> 00:31:00,140
have any knowledge to do with them I've

714
00:31:06,820 --> 00:31:03,340
heard that you know mathematical

715
00:31:09,460 --> 00:31:06,830
analysis programs have been done just

716
00:31:12,220 --> 00:31:09,470
merely looking in the cold light of a

717
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:12,230
computer just to see when you can

718
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:15,200
analyze a picture and you just ask the

719
00:31:19,890 --> 00:31:17,410
picture the computer to look for

720
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:19,900
natural things on what might be

721
00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:22,090
artificial things I've heard that their

722
00:31:27,420 --> 00:31:24,880
face ours and not reach and just scores

723
00:31:30,450 --> 00:31:27,430
very highly on art they do the

724
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:30,460
algorithms are basically just putting

725
00:31:37,410 --> 00:31:33,070
into a mathematical formalism what the

726
00:31:40,020 --> 00:31:37,420
human eye brain already does human eye

727
00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:40,030
brain looks for symmetries it looks for

728
00:31:47,070 --> 00:31:42,160
straight lines it looks for anything

729
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:47,080
that looks like a face finding faces in

730
00:31:52,830 --> 00:31:50,890
the jungle clutter when we're talking

731
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:52,840
about when we lived in the jungle in the

732
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:55,510
past our ancestors there were two things

733
00:31:59,640 --> 00:31:57,610
that were really good to spot one was a

734
00:32:02,700 --> 00:31:59,650
human face especially was wearing war

735
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:02,710
point or paint through the woods the

736
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:04,480
other one was a straight line meaning a

737
00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:06,330
spear or arrow coming straight at you

738
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:08,830
people who were able to recognize these

739
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:11,440
things very quickly lived a long time

740
00:32:15,660 --> 00:32:14,080
and fathered many children and thus

741
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:15,670
contributed the gene pool people who

742
00:32:20,370 --> 00:32:18,370
couldn't recognize these things were

743
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:20,380
winnowed out of the gene pool very

744
00:32:26,250 --> 00:32:24,370
quickly so yes computer well algorithms

745
00:32:29,460 --> 00:32:26,260
have been employed by the military to

746
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:29,470
spot artificial structures even under

747
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:32,880
camouflage by using image processing and

748
00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:34,030
Marcato

749
00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:37,030
applied those to Cydonia finding that

750
00:32:41,910 --> 00:32:39,190
they scored very highly in other words

751
00:32:43,050 --> 00:32:41,920
anyone flying overhead on mars with

752
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:43,060
these kinds of algorithms would

753
00:32:48,420 --> 00:32:45,610
immediately pick up on these objects I

754
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:48,430
had gotten two things at Sandia Labs I

755
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:51,970
had managed to help advance this Mars

756
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:54,880
investigation we found strong evidence

757
00:32:59,610 --> 00:32:56,970
that Mars was earth-like in the past

758
00:33:03,990 --> 00:32:59,620
strong evidence that this was in fact

759
00:33:06,330 --> 00:33:04,000
archaeology we also found another site

760
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:06,340
which we called the Utopia site which

761
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:09,310
has now been renamed by NASA

762
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:12,490
galaxias chaos a very colorful name

763
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:17,200
where there are at least one face that

764
00:33:21,570 --> 00:33:19,600
is a facsimile of the face and Cydonia

765
00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:21,580
and we now have new pictures of that

766
00:33:27,090 --> 00:33:24,760
confirming that it is a face regarding

767
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:27,100
the face on Mars officially this is not

768
00:33:31,810 --> 00:33:28,330
accepted as a reality

769
00:33:34,460 --> 00:33:31,820
oh no well it's considered

770
00:33:36,580 --> 00:33:34,470
infernal nuisance to people who want to

771
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:36,590
just conduct a nice geologic

772
00:33:43,180 --> 00:33:39,360
investigation of Mars looking at

773
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:43,190
interesting rocks um they're convinced

774
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:45,809
this is what's called pareidolia which

775
00:33:51,379 --> 00:33:48,809
is peridot which is finding significant

776
00:33:53,810 --> 00:33:51,389
patterns in really random data you know

777
00:33:56,539 --> 00:33:53,820
like finding a horse shape and the

778
00:33:58,519 --> 00:33:56,549
clouds etc so it's like an optical

779
00:34:00,529 --> 00:33:58,529
illusion is what they're saying yeah

780
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:00,539
there's an optical illusion however

781
00:34:06,379 --> 00:34:04,529
we've we have many new pictures the face

782
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:06,389
on Cydonia is probably the most

783
00:34:12,409 --> 00:34:09,569
photographed object on mars we have many

784
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:12,419
new pictures we found is completely

785
00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:14,879
symmetric it is a it looks like a piece

786
00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:17,399
of eroded archeology and we've even

787
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:19,740
found what looks like brickwork on part

788
00:34:27,139 --> 00:34:22,530
of it and head ornaments nostrils in the

789
00:34:29,659 --> 00:34:27,149
nose etc one thing I learned by the way

790
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:29,669
at Sandia Labs I was especially hoser

791
00:34:35,809 --> 00:34:33,359
expression young man just out of

792
00:34:38,329 --> 00:34:35,819
graduate school with a shiny new PhD

793
00:34:40,129 --> 00:34:38,339
great ready to prove to the world that

794
00:34:43,940 --> 00:34:40,139
was the best physicist on earth

795
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:43,950
he's also learned that science is like

796
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:46,050
professional basketball is not supposed

797
00:34:51,919 --> 00:34:48,450
to be a contact sport

798
00:34:53,629 --> 00:34:51,929
I found that science even though it's

799
00:34:58,300 --> 00:34:53,639
not supposed to be a contact sport

800
00:35:00,770 --> 00:34:58,310
is that passion personalities and

801
00:35:02,359 --> 00:35:00,780
politics enter in just in there is a

802
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:02,369
science especially when there's a large

803
00:35:10,099 --> 00:35:06,089
amount of money involved so part of what

804
00:35:13,069 --> 00:35:10,109
is going on is we're seeing in the

805
00:35:16,690 --> 00:35:13,079
debates over Mars we are seeing the

806
00:35:20,450 --> 00:35:16,700
tension between Pasadena and Houston

807
00:35:22,900 --> 00:35:20,460
Pasadena wants to keep Mars as a place

808
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:22,910
where they can keep doing nice careful

809
00:35:28,309 --> 00:35:26,760
academic investigations of various you

810
00:35:33,140 --> 00:35:28,319
know one of their finding granted on

811
00:35:38,930 --> 00:35:33,150
Mars etc etc Houston wants to send

812
00:35:41,620 --> 00:35:38,940
people there to advance the human

813
00:35:44,690 --> 00:35:41,630
progress in space to make a spacefaring

814
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:44,700
so we have essentially the fight

815
00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:47,810
between academic robotics science and

816
00:35:54,319 --> 00:35:51,599
basically heroic Explorer type science

817
00:35:56,599 --> 00:35:54,329
like in the movie the Martian with Matt

818
00:35:58,609 --> 00:35:56,609
Damon which is so popular John we have

819
00:36:01,849 --> 00:35:58,619
to break in a moment let me let me just

820
00:36:04,670 --> 00:36:01,859
s s okay let's move this along here so

821
00:36:06,140 --> 00:36:04,680
we have these two factions and the thing

822
00:36:08,510 --> 00:36:06,150
I want to ask you also about the Mars

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probes and this may be significant

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because we consider how are those probes

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capable of finding evidence of life and

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the problem here is that these probes

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samples if they exist but to look for

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what's happened with Mars exploration in

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recent months and the coming week we

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have dr. John Brandenburg we're

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exploring Mars Oh gene Steinberg and

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cogs Makai you're in the potica right

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pose at the end of our last segment John

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is that we have this problem here where

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we all would love to see if there was

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life on Mars but the probes we sent by

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the scientists were just rock collectors

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right oh yeah and it's a it's a kind of

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a Gordian knot Jet Propulsion lab does

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not want to send life sensors to Mars

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because if they found life and this is a

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quote from a retired person from JPL

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him that we know quote we know that we

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find anything exciting on Mars the

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astronauts will come with their big

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rockets and take Mars away from us so it

961
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we're talking real estate Jean if you

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were in charge of the planet Mars and

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some Yahoo astronauts wanted to come

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take it away from you

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wouldn't you be upset I mean the idea of

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astronauts romping all over your

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pristine scientific laboratory yeah this

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sounds quite like to me when you hear

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about construction crew maybe in

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somewhere like Nevada and they stumble

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across a Native American burial site or

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it might be one and they know they've

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got to stop construction then and you

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know there so you'll get one site

975
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they're saying it's definitely about

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your site and the other site no it's not

977
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because of these two competing interests

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absolutely correct that is a wonderful

979
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analogy sorry

980
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Joe and carry on yeah I just wanted to

981
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make our analogy oh that's a very good

982
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analogy it is inconvenient to find a

983
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dead civilization on Mars for certain

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factions in the scientific community or

985
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life for that matter it gums up the

986
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whole works basically here we want to

987
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think here that Mars has to be a dead

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world because from a point of politics

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which is what this is about some

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research politics scientific politics

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whatever you want to say if we find

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something that brings humans to Mars

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that's rubato knee cuz it takes away

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their income it takes away their grants

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they don't want it they don't want to

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look for life on Mars because the

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implications are unfortunately injurious

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to their jobs we're talking about the

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tobacco industry setting up the tobacco

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Institute to to make sure that evidence

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of you know can't the link between

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cancer and tobacco is waters are muddied

1003
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so however they still keep producing

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data and they've given us very good data

1005
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and they've tried very hard to convince

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the mainstream scientific community the

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pictures mean nothing but we keep or

1008
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very persistent I liken this debate to

1009
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the continental drift debate where

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people began by saying it looks like

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South America and Africa fit together

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and people said nonsense that can't

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possibly be true and it was basically

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based on just looking at a globe and

1015
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seeing that he was pattern recognition

1016
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so if there's so much politics in

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scientific research oh absolutely you

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have to have a person the the height of

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a rhinoceros and the personality to

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match to really make great discoveries

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and move science ahead ok so you're a

1022
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rhinoceros right and I'm a Viking and I

1023
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love a good scientific fight especially

1024
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if there's plenty of data to argue from

1025
00:45:31,660 --> 00:45:28,900
ok so this is part of our proper but now

1026
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despite sending a probe there a Mars

1027
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rover that is looking for rocks doesn't

1028
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:36,200
care about life we get this report just

1029
00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:39,170
some weeks back that we have the

1030
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remnants of some water over there that

1031
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:45,140
there is settling water on Mars now was

1032
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that just an accidental development

1033
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because that seems to argue in the face

1034
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of this kind of probe well one thing I

1035
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will say about JPL despite them taking a

1036
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:00,950
very firm position that there's no life

1037
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:03,920
on Mars and Mars is a dead world you

1038
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know right for robotic and investigation

1039
00:46:14,579 --> 00:46:10,450
they have been reporting a stream of

1040
00:46:18,839 --> 00:46:14,589
findings they've done very good work

1041
00:46:22,779 --> 00:46:18,849
both engineering and scientific work and

1042
00:46:26,559 --> 00:46:22,789
it all supports the idea that Mars used

1043
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:26,569
to be earth-like it was abundant flowing

1044
00:46:33,660 --> 00:46:30,079
and standing water so this is just like

1045
00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:33,670
the Dead Sea's the Dead Sea's of Barsoom

1046
00:46:40,479 --> 00:46:37,630
envisioned by Edgar Rice Burroughs yep

1047
00:46:41,740 --> 00:46:40,489
so Edgar Rice Burroughs was right except

1048
00:46:44,290 --> 00:46:41,750
that he depicted a press

1049
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:44,300
de Martian civilization and not one that

1050
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:46,250
existed millions of years ago are we

1051
00:46:49,690 --> 00:46:47,510
thinking then that there was a

1052
00:46:52,330 --> 00:46:49,700
civilization I want more specifics about

1053
00:46:53,770 --> 00:46:52,340
what lo by now that this happened

1054
00:46:56,050 --> 00:46:53,780
millions of years ago it wasn't

1055
00:47:00,000 --> 00:46:56,060
something that happened yesterday yes

1056
00:47:03,730 --> 00:47:00,010
but basically we have enough evidence

1057
00:47:07,180 --> 00:47:03,740
enough data to say that Mars was like

1058
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:07,190
earth until about half a billion to a

1059
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:09,890
quarter billion years ago now that's a

1060
00:47:15,490 --> 00:47:11,330
long time ago that's before the

1061
00:47:17,740 --> 00:47:15,500
dinosaurs but does that mean here that

1062
00:47:20,380 --> 00:47:17,750
there was time for him whatever happened

1063
00:47:25,330 --> 00:47:20,390
on Mars happened before there were any

1064
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:25,340
humans now if evolution took the same

1065
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:28,160
pace here and on Mars would that mean

1066
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:29,930
all the action happened before they

1067
00:47:35,530 --> 00:47:32,570
could develop an intelligent race of

1068
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:35,540
beings gene that's that's an excellent

1069
00:47:39,580 --> 00:47:36,310
question

1070
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:39,590
we have evidence now that life began on

1071
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:44,090
earth almost immediately they found in

1072
00:47:53,730 --> 00:47:50,090
rocks less than less than 400 million

1073
00:47:56,020 --> 00:47:53,740
years old evidence for life on Earth

1074
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,030
basically as soon as there was a liquid

1075
00:48:01,960 --> 00:47:58,640
ocean on Earth there was life in it yes

1076
00:48:05,350 --> 00:48:01,970
but the point I'm making the point I'm

1077
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:05,360
making here though is that on Mars being

1078
00:48:11,340 --> 00:48:08,090
that the atmosphere did not last as long

1079
00:48:13,810 --> 00:48:11,350
as it does on earth oh the progress

1080
00:48:16,750 --> 00:48:13,820
would be less therefore wouldn't that

1081
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:16,760
argue against the possibility of an

1082
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:19,520
intelligent spacefaring race starting my

1083
00:48:24,010 --> 00:48:22,010
argument gene you got a scientist or a

1084
00:48:24,820 --> 00:48:24,020
little long-winded sometimes I'll cut to

1085
00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:24,830
the chase

1086
00:48:32,740 --> 00:48:28,240
basically Mars had a head start on Earth

1087
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:32,750
apparently it assembled quicker it

1088
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:36,410
cooled off quicker and apparently life

1089
00:48:42,130 --> 00:48:40,010
it had what we would call earth-like

1090
00:48:46,570 --> 00:48:42,140
conditions much earlier than Earth did

1091
00:48:48,490 --> 00:48:46,580
earth was a hothouse steam roll for

1092
00:48:50,730 --> 00:48:48,500
billions of years only primitive

1093
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:50,740
bacteria could live here but on Mars

1094
00:48:55,130 --> 00:48:53,330
atmosphere cooled and cleared off and

1095
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:55,140
you started evolu

1096
00:49:00,980 --> 00:48:57,450
probably half a billion years before

1097
00:49:04,340 --> 00:49:00,990
earth that happened on earth and also

1098
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:04,350
you must remember somebody that most of

1099
00:49:10,010 --> 00:49:06,930
the evolution and on earth happened and

1100
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:10,020
half a billion years not not four

1101
00:49:15,310 --> 00:49:12,810
billion years like people think all

1102
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:15,320
right so you're saying here since Mars

1103
00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:18,330
develop more quickly yes it had a head

1104
00:49:22,180 --> 00:49:20,280
start on earth because how do you know

1105
00:49:26,090 --> 00:49:22,190
that how do you make that supposition

1106
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:26,100
well boiling earth is Mars this is only

1107
00:49:31,490 --> 00:49:28,770
one eighth mass of Earth it's half the

1108
00:49:34,970 --> 00:49:31,500
size that means is one eighth of the

1109
00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:34,980
mass so it has that much less latent

1110
00:49:39,650 --> 00:49:36,720
heat to get rid of when it first

1111
00:49:42,830 --> 00:49:39,660
assembles so Mars would have had a

1112
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:42,840
liquid ocean probably several hundred

1113
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:44,510
million years earlier than Earth

1114
00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:53,900
early Mars is far more terrestrial then

1115
00:50:00,410 --> 00:49:55,710
Earth was at the same time

1116
00:50:02,990 --> 00:50:00,420
so basically Mars began to have an

1117
00:50:08,180 --> 00:50:03,000
oxygen atmosphere very early it looks

1118
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:08,190
like so once you have on earth things

1119
00:50:12,700 --> 00:50:10,410
kind of bumbled along with just

1120
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:12,710
microbial life until what was called the

1121
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:16,170
pre Cambrian explosion when suddenly

1122
00:50:22,610 --> 00:50:20,010
life began to just explode into a number

1123
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of different ecological niches one of

1124
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:23,640
the things that happened was that

1125
00:50:28,070 --> 00:50:25,770
suddenly oxygen started appearing in the

1126
00:50:31,340 --> 00:50:28,080
mark in the first atmosphere a long time

1127
00:50:33,410 --> 00:50:31,350
for large amounts the same thing

1128
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:33,420
apparently happened on Mars much earlier

1129
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let's discuss this in the next segment

1130
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1131
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rise of intelligent beings on Mars so

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1195
00:54:03,760 --> 00:53:59,420
welcome back into the para cast the gold

1196
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1197
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:12,390
here's Jane Steinberg Jean Steinberg aux

1198
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:14,610
makai Chris O'Brien specialist Simon

1199
00:54:19,090 --> 00:54:16,800
were welcoming dr. John Brandenburg is

1200
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:19,100
trying tracing his feeling here that

1201
00:54:25,130 --> 00:54:22,110
Mars being a planet of less mass

1202
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:25,140
developed faster than Earth IO knowing

1203
00:54:29,390 --> 00:54:26,850
enough about planetary science to know

1204
00:54:31,070 --> 00:54:29,400
any of this further from the Sun so it

1205
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:31,080
basically cooled off quicker

1206
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:34,650
okay so Emeril until maybe a billion

1207
00:54:40,490 --> 00:54:38,400
years ago so what kind of life do you

1208
00:54:43,130 --> 00:54:40,500
think developed on Mars intelligent life

1209
00:54:45,740 --> 00:54:43,140
life capable the space fairly I think I

1210
00:54:49,100 --> 00:54:45,750
believe that when we go to Mars and dig

1211
00:54:52,610 --> 00:54:49,110
we will find an entire evolutionary

1212
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:52,620
record from microbial animals to all the

1213
00:54:58,910 --> 00:54:56,240
way through vertebrates up to humanoid

1214
00:55:00,410 --> 00:54:58,920
intelligence okay so you're taking the

1215
00:55:03,740 --> 00:55:00,420
theory here that the conditions are

1216
00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:03,750
right humanoids are inevitable the

1217
00:55:09,170 --> 00:55:06,720
humanoid form is a very efficient form

1218
00:55:11,060 --> 00:55:09,180
for technological I mean look they're

1219
00:55:15,140 --> 00:55:11,070
there many animals that have a humanoid

1220
00:55:17,210 --> 00:55:15,150
form a tree sloth the monkey even to

1221
00:55:20,060 --> 00:55:17,220
some extent the bear I mean two arms two

1222
00:55:22,370 --> 00:55:20,070
legs can walk upright but when you start

1223
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:22,380
getting a very flat face so you can use

1224
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:25,050
your eyes to do clothes and work you

1225
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:26,880
know you're developing kind of a monkey

1226
00:55:32,900 --> 00:55:30,690
primate kind of creature and there were

1227
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:32,910
dinosaurs that we're starting to evolve

1228
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:35,910
this kind of form before the collapse of

1229
00:55:42,650 --> 00:55:39,450
the dinosaur age so the humanoid form is

1230
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:42,660
a very practical form compared the great

1231
00:55:48,170 --> 00:55:45,210
white shark in the dolphin both powerful

1232
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:48,180
swimmers they look the same the only

1233
00:55:53,690 --> 00:55:50,850
difference between them is dolphins

1234
00:55:55,850 --> 00:55:53,700
these you know the tails are horizontal

1235
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:55,860
where's the shark the tail fins are

1236
00:56:00,550 --> 00:55:58,410
vertical otherwise the musculature and

1237
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:00,560
everything else is very much the same

1238
00:56:04,340 --> 00:56:02,490
physiologically they're quite different

1239
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:04,350
but they look the same because form

1240
00:56:08,539 --> 00:56:07,290
follows function so John we don't think

1241
00:56:10,999 --> 00:56:08,549
that dolphins is

1242
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:11,009
as they might be our building Apple

1243
00:56:17,089 --> 00:56:15,599
iPhones no they are not okay so all

1244
00:56:20,269 --> 00:56:17,099
right so we are assuming here is

1245
00:56:23,140 --> 00:56:20,279
possible civilization of humanoids yeah

1246
00:56:26,449 --> 00:56:23,150
that existed millions of years ago

1247
00:56:29,749 --> 00:56:26,459
conditions were required to support them

1248
00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:29,759
we're more hostile would they migrate to

1249
00:56:34,579 --> 00:56:32,400
the insights of the planet to keep their

1250
00:56:38,269 --> 00:56:34,589
civilization going or leave the planet

1251
00:56:41,209 --> 00:56:38,279
if they could well and I will tell let

1252
00:56:44,299 --> 00:56:41,219
me preface as a scientist I try and stay

1253
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:44,309
as close to the data as possible in the

1254
00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:46,890
doct interpretations what you want to do

1255
00:56:51,709 --> 00:56:48,809
is have what's called economy of

1256
00:56:53,630 --> 00:56:51,719
hypothesis you want to postulate as few

1257
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:53,640
new things as possible

1258
00:56:59,599 --> 00:56:56,640
when I look at the stuff we have found

1259
00:57:03,499 --> 00:56:59,609
on Mars including some new pictures this

1260
00:57:05,479 --> 00:57:03,509
appear to show a city at Cydonia it all

1261
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:05,489
looks like the remnants of a very

1262
00:57:11,689 --> 00:57:08,640
primitive civilization Stonehenge Stone

1263
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:11,699
Age early Bronze Age we're talking

1264
00:57:17,900 --> 00:57:15,569
ancient Egypt the Mayans the Aztecs we

1265
00:57:23,719 --> 00:57:17,910
see no evidence of a road system of

1266
00:57:27,049 --> 00:57:23,729
airports of advanced harbors in like

1267
00:57:30,739 --> 00:57:27,059
this it all looks based on an earth

1268
00:57:34,569 --> 00:57:30,749
reference it looks very primitive I

1269
00:57:36,650 --> 00:57:34,579
don't think these people got very far

1270
00:57:39,169 --> 00:57:36,660
technologically I don't know nothing

1271
00:57:42,140 --> 00:57:39,179
they were spacefaring at all I think

1272
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:42,150
they were pretty much like ancient Egypt

1273
00:57:51,380 --> 00:57:45,359
building large monuments they probably

1274
00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:51,390
had some metals but beyond that I don't

1275
00:57:57,620 --> 00:57:54,319
think they got very far that's why

1276
00:58:00,859 --> 00:57:57,630
finding what else we have found is so

1277
00:58:03,739 --> 00:58:00,869
tragic and pathetic because it looks

1278
00:58:06,709 --> 00:58:03,749
like someone else came along and nuked

1279
00:58:10,429 --> 00:58:06,719
them okay so what we're saying here John

1280
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:10,439
is that any of this nuclear action

1281
00:58:14,479 --> 00:58:12,569
anything indicating the presence of an

1282
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:14,489
advanced civilization those who aren't

1283
00:58:21,019 --> 00:58:18,569
the Martians somebody else based on an

1284
00:58:22,670 --> 00:58:21,029
earth reference interpretation of what

1285
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:22,680
we have found

1286
00:58:27,930 --> 00:58:26,110
this could be it now it could be that

1287
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:27,940
they were very advanced and we just

1288
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:30,250
don't know what to look for but will we

1289
00:58:37,230 --> 00:58:32,890
look at this stuff it looks like Pompeii

1290
00:58:41,310 --> 00:58:37,240
it looks like machu pico it you know it

1291
00:58:43,890 --> 00:58:41,320
looks like chicken Chichen Itza or 2qq

1292
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:43,900
akan it doesn't look like anything

1293
00:58:51,660 --> 00:58:47,770
advanced and hence finding the nuclear

1294
00:58:55,740 --> 00:58:51,670
data is that much more kind of

1295
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:55,750
horrifying dogs you had a question yet

1296
00:59:03,660 --> 00:58:58,810
yeah John if we could maybe cover and

1297
00:59:06,780 --> 00:59:03,670
the reasons as to why you think and what

1298
00:59:09,330 --> 00:59:06,790
what what is the scientific what is the

1299
00:59:11,370 --> 00:59:09,340
scientific evidence what is the

1300
00:59:13,890 --> 00:59:11,380
scientific evidence that you believe is

1301
00:59:19,380 --> 00:59:13,900
there that indicates some kind of

1302
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:19,390
nuclear catastrophe the beginning of

1303
00:59:27,180 --> 00:59:23,440
this was started at Sandia Labs where

1304
00:59:28,980 --> 00:59:27,190
the government had a group of scientists

1305
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:28,990
who were monitoring the atmosphere for

1306
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:34,330
signs of covert nuclear testing and they

1307
00:59:39,420 --> 00:59:36,610
would monitor various isotopes in the

1308
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:39,430
atmosphere one of them they monitored

1309
00:59:46,020 --> 00:59:42,730
apparently is xenon 129

1310
00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:46,030
which is a stable isotope but is

1311
00:59:52,110 --> 00:59:48,640
produced by nuclear weapons in large

1312
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:52,120
amounts and also it's also produced by

1313
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:53,890
plutonium production the making of

1314
00:59:58,890 --> 00:59:55,690
plutonium which involved both of which

1315
01:00:01,230 --> 00:59:58,900
involves fast neutrons not neutrons you

1316
01:00:05,970 --> 01:00:01,240
normally knew run a nuclear reactor will

1317
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:05,980
but fast neutrons so when the Viking

1318
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:08,110
landers landed on Mars they looked at

1319
01:00:13,290 --> 01:00:10,210
the samples the gases of the Martian

1320
01:00:17,630 --> 01:00:13,300
atmosphere and they found two and a half

1321
01:00:22,260 --> 01:00:17,640
times more xenon 129 in the atmosphere

1322
01:00:25,380 --> 01:00:22,270
then xenon 132 on earth those two things

1323
01:00:28,250 --> 01:00:25,390
are equal in the solar wind are equal

1324
01:00:31,820 --> 01:00:28,260
when we parachuted a probe into the

1325
01:00:35,380 --> 01:00:31,830
Jupiter atmosphere they were both equal

1326
01:00:39,069 --> 01:00:35,390
mars sticks out like a sore thumb

1327
01:00:41,740 --> 01:00:39,079
as far as xenon is concerned xenon 129

1328
01:00:46,109 --> 01:00:41,750
the only place in the solar system you

1329
01:00:48,730 --> 01:00:46,119
find this amount of xenon 129

1330
01:00:51,130 --> 01:00:48,740
Internet in a planetary atmosphere is on

1331
01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:51,140
earth and that is the part of the us of

1332
01:00:58,269 --> 01:00:54,400
the atmosphere that has changed since

1333
01:01:01,960 --> 01:00:58,279
1945 since we began open air nuclear

1334
01:01:04,539 --> 01:01:01,970
testing of hydrogen and Tomic pumps and

1335
01:01:06,670 --> 01:01:04,549
also this is ammonium so there's no

1336
01:01:10,529 --> 01:01:06,680
alternative explanation for this

1337
01:01:12,940 --> 01:01:10,539
increased ratio of xenon 129

1338
01:01:14,980 --> 01:01:12,950
no one has advanced any other

1339
01:01:19,779 --> 01:01:14,990
explanation

1340
01:01:22,390 --> 01:01:19,789
I have here's the other the other

1341
01:01:25,420 --> 01:01:22,400
evidence by the way is that the Martian

1342
01:01:27,819 --> 01:01:25,430
meteorites then the more recent ones

1343
01:01:33,849 --> 01:01:27,829
have been intensely irradiated with

1344
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:33,859
neutrons high-energy neutrons and this

1345
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:36,170
has made a lot of what's called Krypton

1346
01:01:42,339 --> 01:01:39,410
80 inside them and they can't explain

1347
01:01:45,819 --> 01:01:42,349
this anywhere else anyway else but but

1348
01:01:50,999 --> 01:01:45,829
they were irradiated on Mars by large

1349
01:01:54,819 --> 01:01:51,009
amounts of neutrons the amount of

1350
01:01:57,910 --> 01:01:54,829
radioactive potassium and thorium on the

1351
01:02:02,380 --> 01:01:57,920
surface of Mars in the top layer of the

1352
01:02:04,569 --> 01:02:02,390
surface of Mars is almost equal to the

1353
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:04,579
amount you'd find on earth but the

1354
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:07,130
Martian meteorites which are rocks from

1355
01:02:13,900 --> 01:02:10,930
beneath the surface flown into space

1356
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:13,910
they have one-tenth the amount of

1357
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:18,170
potassium and thorium as Earth rocks so

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this indicates that Mars surface is

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covered with a thin layer of radioactive

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potassium and thorium so if you put all

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these things together and the fact that

1362
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they're two hot spots in potassium and

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thorium it looks like there were two

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massive nuclear explosions on Mars no

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III would John I would agree with you

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that you know on the face of it that

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that does seem pretty compelling ever

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so if there's initial kind of their

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findings from the Viking landers was

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kind of indicating even anything and

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he's any such thing then would I be

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right in thinking that JPL has steered

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clear of doing any further testing with

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the current Landers curiosity et Cie

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have gongs Makai Azure guest co-host

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with dr. John Brandenburg we're trying

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to sort out here what kind of conditions

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prevail on Mars whether there was an

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intelligent civilization and whether

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Mars was nuked and when you're talking

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about the evidence of Mars being nuked

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how long ago do you think this event

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might have happened well the explosions

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were so enormous they would have blown

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off the atmosphere of Mars and indeed

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the radioactive potassium and thorium

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maps of Mars gathered by the Odyssey

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spacecraft show a global debris pattern

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that reaches all the way around the

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planet were on the far side of the plant

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shockwaves already collide and what's

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called the antipode from the explosions

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01:09:04,809 --> 01:09:04,009
so this blew the entire atmosphere off

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01:09:08,430 --> 01:09:04,819
of Mars

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it made Mars what it is today basically

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alright then so you're saying that this

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hastened the thinning of the atmosphere

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oh absolutely

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this would have been dist absolutely

1525
01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:18,529
devastating if Mars was losing its

1526
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atmosphere before this this would have

1527
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dramatically

1528
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:27,770
increase the loss of atmosphere and so

1529
01:09:33,370 --> 01:09:31,010
that means the liquid water era on Mars

1530
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:33,380
the water of water channels and things

1531
01:09:41,350 --> 01:09:36,890
like that we know of the approximate

1532
01:09:45,430 --> 01:09:41,360
epoch when that occurred on Mars and

1533
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then that that roughly ended somewhere

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between half a billion and a quarter

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billion years ago so it looks like

1536
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that's that's how we back out a time

1537
01:10:00,790 --> 01:09:58,150
also the radioactive gamma gamma rays

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come from radioactive isotopes that have

1539
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extremely long life spans like a billion

1540
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years but we don't find these patterns

1541
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and anything shorter than that so it

1542
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looks like whatever happened had to have

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happened a long time ago okay now we're

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talking about an artificial event we

1545
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have Martians who are not capable

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technologically of doing this sort of

1547
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thing

1548
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so if et came down to nuke Mars how can

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we possibly know this and even then why

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would they do it why would they

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basically destroy a civilization which

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would be the impact right well you have

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to put on your Sherlock Holmes hat you

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have to look at all the circumstantial

1555
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evidence the two places of radio at

1556
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spots of radioactivity there is no

1557
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crater there whatever went off went off

1558
01:10:59,050 --> 01:10:56,960
in midair this is an air burst now the

1559
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bombs that went off at Hiroshima and

1560
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Nagasaki on earth were also air bursts

1561
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and they were not done that way for

1562
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humanitarian reasons it's because it

1563
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maximizes the shockwave and not only

1564
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that it turned thousands of square miles

1565
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:14,510
of the Martian surface in those areas

1566
01:11:21,100 --> 01:11:18,110
into glass called Trinitite they find

1567
01:11:25,750 --> 01:11:21,110
evidence in infrared of acid etched

1568
01:11:28,500 --> 01:11:25,760
glass consistent with Trinitite at both

1569
01:11:32,710 --> 01:11:28,510
air both radioactive Heights hot spots

1570
01:11:35,020 --> 01:11:32,720
so it appears that these very large

1571
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nuclear weapons they were as large as

1572
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the Khobar Tower

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or drops from space no one would

1574
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construct such a thing on the surface of

1575
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the planet and lob it just into the air

1576
01:11:51,550 --> 01:11:48,890
a few hundred kilometers it would be

1577
01:11:53,500 --> 01:11:51,560
very hard to do but if you built it in

1578
01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:53,510
space and brought it to Mars and dropped

1579
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:55,760
it that would be easy to do okay but I'm

1580
01:12:00,460 --> 01:11:57,290
still trying to wrap my head around the

1581
01:12:02,890 --> 01:12:00,470
core problem here which is even if this

1582
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occurred precisely as you state in your

1583
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book and what we've talked about before

1584
01:12:10,030 --> 01:12:05,590
in the powertest

1585
01:12:12,460 --> 01:12:10,040
even if that happened why would he come

1586
01:12:16,420 --> 01:12:12,470
to Mars to do that what's their model

1587
01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:16,430
what I do think they do it here you have

1588
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:19,280
to look there's a principle of SETI

1589
01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:22,730
called mediocrity which has been

1590
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underlying a lot of our research it says

1591
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that the human race is not an aberration

1592
01:12:33,610 --> 01:12:32,000
on the cosmos it's fairly typical of

1593
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:33,620
intelligent life in the university we

1594
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:34,970
want to know what intelligent life in

1595
01:12:41,290 --> 01:12:36,890
the universe looks looks like turn on

1596
01:12:47,250 --> 01:12:41,300
the news oh that is frankly I know it is

1597
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:47,260
very frightening I'm sorry but I mean

1598
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:50,690
the in a science fiction novel two

1599
01:12:56,830 --> 01:12:53,810
characters I have both women fight that

1600
01:12:59,790 --> 01:12:56,840
they they they expected people to outer

1601
01:13:02,710 --> 01:12:59,800
space to be much more noble and and

1602
01:13:04,930 --> 01:13:02,720
better behaved than people on earth and

1603
01:13:07,060 --> 01:13:04,940
they found out just the opposite and

1604
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:07,070
then they both say in unison imagine our

1605
01:13:13,870 --> 01:13:09,010
disappointment

1606
01:13:16,990 --> 01:13:13,880
so I'm sorry we are not an aberration on

1607
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:17,000
the on the universe we are basic basic

1608
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:21,250
ly we're it so this means you have to

1609
01:13:28,150 --> 01:13:25,520
this is like governor Tarkin blowing up

1610
01:13:31,480 --> 01:13:28,160
Alderaan

1611
01:13:34,030 --> 01:13:31,490
because danta lien is too remote to give

1612
01:13:38,050 --> 01:13:34,040
a good example somebody made an example

1613
01:13:39,820 --> 01:13:38,060
of Mars it looks like somebody wanted to

1614
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:39,830
make sure that not only was the

1615
01:13:47,380 --> 01:13:42,410
civilization on Mars destroyed but the

1616
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:47,390
planet would be sterilized forever so

1617
01:13:50,590 --> 01:13:48,770
basically these are a bunch of the

1618
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:50,600
idiots from outer space

1619
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:52,490
a bunch of warlike idiots from outer

1620
01:13:56,830 --> 01:13:55,490
space say okay we're gonna nuke Mars or

1621
01:14:00,490 --> 01:13:56,840
whatever they call it it's like Genghis

1622
01:14:02,530 --> 01:14:00,500
Khan making a pyramid of heads you know

1623
01:14:04,570 --> 01:14:02,540
when he could have just enslaved the

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01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:04,580
city and there's no no he chopped off

1625
01:14:12,910 --> 01:14:07,730
everybody's admitted pyramid to to scare

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01:14:16,690 --> 01:14:12,920
everyone else it's a next time you visit

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Mongolia and Genghis Khan International

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01:14:24,300 --> 01:14:21,770
Airport think about that okay so et now

1629
01:14:28,420 --> 01:14:24,310
the other question I have here is a V T

1630
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:28,430
was busy new clean Mars any evidence

1631
01:14:37,950 --> 01:14:35,090
they tried to nuke earth roughly at this

1632
01:14:42,370 --> 01:14:37,960
time was the great Permian extinction

1633
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where almost everything on earth died so

1634
01:14:50,350 --> 01:14:46,760
I urged in the book that we should look

1635
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for any abnormal abnormalities in the

1636
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isotopic ratios that might indicate a

1637
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nuclear attack on earth earth would have

1638
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had no light no advanced life on it the

1639
01:15:04,330 --> 01:15:01,730
time there were only cockroaches on

1640
01:15:06,430 --> 01:15:04,340
earth and in fact cockroaches survived

1641
01:15:08,740 --> 01:15:06,440
there's a great Permian extinction and

1642
01:15:12,430 --> 01:15:08,750
they're notorious for being very

1643
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:12,440
resistant to radiation so we have to

1644
01:15:20,770 --> 01:15:16,850
look at the researchers have to look at

1645
01:15:22,500 --> 01:15:20,780
the isotopes in the preserved and the

1646
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rocks from the great Permian extinction

1647
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John I gather from what you're saying

1648
01:15:28,690 --> 01:15:26,900
that nobody is actually taking that

1649
01:15:32,620 --> 01:15:28,700
seriously or looking for at least a few

1650
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:32,630
oh wow it's too frightening it's too

1651
01:15:43,300 --> 01:15:38,690
frightening for people now John if this

1652
01:15:46,420 --> 01:15:43,310
happened that Mars was nuked by ET maybe

1653
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:46,430
they did some shenanigans here as well

1654
01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:50,810
yeah okay this is half a billion years

1655
01:15:56,350 --> 01:15:54,110
ago whatever did they kind of vanish

1656
01:15:58,480 --> 01:15:56,360
themselves because they were so warlike

1657
01:16:00,910 --> 01:15:58,490
they met somebody else who took care

1658
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:00,920
them or are they still present are they

1659
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:02,810
coming here in UFOs rage and Duke us

1660
01:16:07,300 --> 01:16:04,370
again

1661
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:07,310
don't know I tend to believe that cosmic

1662
01:16:13,650 --> 01:16:09,770
karma caught up with whoever did this to

1663
01:16:16,330 --> 01:16:13,660
Mars but you'd like to think that oh

1664
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what's that you'd like to think that

1665
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wouldn't you you I would like to think

1666
01:16:23,620 --> 01:16:20,810
that we have dr. John Brandenburg we're

1667
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talking about nuking Mars and maybe they

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tried it on earth with Gene and GOG czar

1669
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in the powder cost

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[Music]

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of information and you are listening to

1776
01:21:04,060 --> 01:21:02,000
the podcast dr. John Brandenburg is here

1777
01:21:06,010 --> 01:21:04,070
and we're talking about the mysteries of

1778
01:21:08,020 --> 01:21:06,020
Mars but I'm not focused now very

1779
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quickly because we're kind of retracing

1780
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:09,860
a lot of old ground but adding to the

1781
01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:12,130
possibility that Earth was impacted by

1782
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these new king ets so we discovered the

1783
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presence of some kind of running water

1784
01:21:22,660 --> 01:21:20,150
on Mars by the probe that doesn't care

1785
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:22,670
about life and now there's a story and

1786
01:21:26,590 --> 01:21:25,040
this may be prejudging what the news

1787
01:21:28,750 --> 01:21:26,600
will be but maybe you've heard more than

1788
01:21:30,550 --> 01:21:28,760
we have Martian atmosphere that

1789
01:21:32,020 --> 01:21:30,560
apparently is going to be disclosed a

1790
01:21:34,690 --> 01:21:32,030
couple of days after the show goes on

1791
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:34,700
the air so would you tell us please what

1792
01:21:38,380 --> 01:21:36,530
do you think the guy tell us what do you

1793
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:38,390
think they're going to reveal oh they're

1794
01:21:43,150 --> 01:21:40,490
going to find they're finding that the

1795
01:21:45,790 --> 01:21:43,160
Martian atmosphere is rapidly being

1796
01:21:48,460 --> 01:21:45,800
blown over sand blasted away by the

1797
01:21:52,030 --> 01:21:48,470
solar wind because Mars doesn't have a

1798
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:52,040
magnetic field anymore and that if you

1799
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:54,530
extrapolate that rate back it says that

1800
01:21:59,290 --> 01:21:56,210
Mars used to have a much denser

1801
01:22:02,230 --> 01:21:59,300
atmosphere about the time frame we are

1802
01:22:05,980 --> 01:22:02,240
talking about quarter half a billion

1803
01:22:08,440 --> 01:22:05,990
years ago so what they're going to say

1804
01:22:12,610 --> 01:22:08,450
is that Mars could have easily had an

1805
01:22:15,670 --> 01:22:12,620
ocean in liquid water in fairly recent

1806
01:22:18,010 --> 01:22:15,680
geologic times when they announced this

1807
01:22:20,170 --> 01:22:18,020
John they're going to obviously get

1808
01:22:22,110 --> 01:22:20,180
questions when people will say okay so

1809
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:22,120
they had an earth-like atmosphere

1810
01:22:26,830 --> 01:22:24,250
billions of years ago whatever it was

1811
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:26,840
right would they have had intelligent

1812
01:22:30,550 --> 01:22:28,930
life then that questions got to come up

1813
01:22:32,380 --> 01:22:30,560
well yes

1814
01:22:37,780 --> 01:22:32,390
people are going to have to ask that

1815
01:22:40,030 --> 01:22:37,790
question and headquarters NASA has a

1816
01:22:44,750 --> 01:22:40,040
much different attitude about this then

1817
01:22:48,150 --> 01:22:44,760
jet propulsion NASA is not a monolith

1818
01:22:52,890 --> 01:22:48,160
no pun intended apologies to arthur c

1819
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:52,900
clarke nasa is not a completely

1820
01:22:57,660 --> 01:22:56,050
homogeneous thing for one thing the

1821
01:23:00,120 --> 01:22:57,670
people will have taken the lead in

1822
01:23:04,350 --> 01:23:00,130
finding life on Mars and Mars meteorites

1823
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:04,360
are from Houston because they want a man

1824
01:23:08,730 --> 01:23:05,610
mission to Mars

1825
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:08,740
and the people at Jet Propulsion lab are

1826
01:23:14,510 --> 01:23:10,810
some of the leaders of the people who

1827
01:23:19,590 --> 01:23:14,520
say oh no your evidence isn't convincing

1828
01:23:23,390 --> 01:23:19,600
so people in in NASA headquarters are

1829
01:23:27,090 --> 01:23:23,400
far more progressive in their thinking

1830
01:23:30,540 --> 01:23:27,100
about Mars then people except propulsion

1831
01:23:32,780 --> 01:23:30,550
lab are simply because it's they want a

1832
01:23:35,340 --> 01:23:32,790
they want a manned mission to Mars and

1833
01:23:38,790 --> 01:23:35,350
be able to justify that the American

1834
01:23:41,450 --> 01:23:38,800
public and nothing intrigue the whole

1835
01:23:44,010 --> 01:23:41,460
reason to go to Mars is to find out

1836
01:23:46,710 --> 01:23:44,020
whether there was intelligent life there

1837
01:23:50,220 --> 01:23:46,720
in the past now that is the big question

1838
01:23:52,290 --> 01:23:50,230
in Mars okay now that's the other

1839
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:52,300
question to hear if we are going to go

1840
01:23:57,810 --> 01:23:54,850
to Mars I like to think about how this

1841
01:24:01,470 --> 01:23:57,820
might come to be because the space

1842
01:24:03,870 --> 01:24:01,480
program died pretty much after the

1843
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astronauts stopped going to the moon

1844
01:24:09,330 --> 01:24:05,590
unless you believe there's a secret

1845
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:09,340
space program do you I don't think

1846
01:24:14,250 --> 01:24:11,110
there's a space secret space program

1847
01:24:15,570 --> 01:24:14,260
myself I know that a lot of money seems

1848
01:24:17,610 --> 01:24:15,580
to have been spent by the Defense

1849
01:24:21,330 --> 01:24:17,620
Department on something in space but we

1850
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:21,340
don't know what it is so I that's all

1851
01:24:26,220 --> 01:24:23,290
like a lot of money seems to be on the

1852
01:24:29,460 --> 01:24:26,230
counter for which means that when it is

1853
01:24:32,580 --> 01:24:29,470
some kind of classified program but I

1854
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:32,590
but I can't speculate I don't have

1855
01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:36,130
enough information all I know is that we

1856
01:24:42,690 --> 01:24:38,490
we quit going to the moon

1857
01:24:44,490 --> 01:24:42,700
after doing six victory laps we won the

1858
01:24:46,890 --> 01:24:44,500
race to the moon we did six victory laps

1859
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:46,900
and a goal post dance and spike the

1860
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football and then unfortunately the moon

1861
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:53,470
didn't really have any major resources

1862
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:55,130
or anything else

1863
01:24:59,580 --> 01:24:57,650
and building a base on the moon was

1864
01:25:03,130 --> 01:24:59,590
viewed as not only expensive but

1865
01:25:04,750 --> 01:25:03,140
destabilizing to the Cold War so they

1866
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:04,760
decided to just pull back from the land

1867
01:25:11,620 --> 01:25:08,090
build and build a space station which we

1868
01:25:13,870 --> 01:25:11,630
did the Skylab and a space shuttle and

1869
01:25:19,540 --> 01:25:13,880
then we built a bigger Space Station so

1870
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in in one sense in future students will

1871
01:25:24,510 --> 01:25:21,350
read the history of this whole era as

1872
01:25:27,370 --> 01:25:24,520
okay they went to the moon for geo

1873
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:27,380
geopolitical reasons but then they

1874
01:25:32,380 --> 01:25:29,890
continued to expand in his space and

1875
01:25:36,010 --> 01:25:32,390
develop a permanent human presence in

1876
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:36,020
space the space station and now we're

1877
01:25:41,890 --> 01:25:40,130
set to go to Mars and oh I will share a

1878
01:25:45,010 --> 01:25:41,900
conversation with an old space

1879
01:25:46,870 --> 01:25:45,020
professional he said it it would have

1880
01:25:48,790 --> 01:25:46,880
made much more sense to build a space

1881
01:25:52,060 --> 01:25:48,800
station and then go to the moon so

1882
01:25:55,180 --> 01:25:52,070
instead we did it backwards so he said

1883
01:25:57,070 --> 01:25:55,190
by that a lot by that illogic the human

1884
01:26:00,790 --> 01:25:57,080
race will go to Mars first and then

1885
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:00,800
build a moon base all right but whenever

1886
01:26:05,470 --> 01:26:02,810
it happens it's not something we're

1887
01:26:09,460 --> 01:26:05,480
doing now the last estimate I heard is

1888
01:26:13,090 --> 01:26:09,470
maybe 15 or 20 years what did you say

1889
01:26:14,890 --> 01:26:13,100
hey we're gonna need a big motivator to

1890
01:26:19,270 --> 01:26:14,900
go to Mars right because right now

1891
01:26:21,490 --> 01:26:19,280
they're talking about Mars in 2035 and I

1892
01:26:24,220 --> 01:26:21,500
will be about 400 years old you'll be

1893
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:24,230
maybe 450 at the time so I don't think

1894
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:26,210
you or I are going to necessarily live

1895
01:26:32,500 --> 01:26:29,930
to see people go to Mars or if we do

1896
01:26:33,210 --> 01:26:32,510
we're going to be quite old what's your

1897
01:26:36,940 --> 01:26:33,220
take

1898
01:26:40,570 --> 01:26:36,950
okay I believe we will go to Mars much

1899
01:26:44,170 --> 01:26:40,580
sooner than 20 years from now I believe

1900
01:26:47,610 --> 01:26:44,180
we will go there of necessity because of

1901
01:26:50,530 --> 01:26:47,620
these things that have been discovered

1902
01:26:54,010 --> 01:26:50,540
there is a dead civilization on Mars and

1903
01:26:57,490 --> 01:26:54,020
apparently someone nuke them it's the

1904
01:27:01,720 --> 01:26:57,500
most poignant and tragic story

1905
01:27:04,980 --> 01:27:01,730
imaginable it it completely transforms

1906
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:04,990
our view of the universe from from being

1907
01:27:08,860 --> 01:27:08,000
something we could ignore and maybe

1908
01:27:11,530 --> 01:27:08,870
explore

1909
01:27:16,450 --> 01:27:11,540
at our leisure too now we must become

1910
01:27:18,610 --> 01:27:16,460
spacefaring we must become we can't be a

1911
01:27:22,690 --> 01:27:18,620
little fish in a big sea anymore we have

1912
01:27:26,110 --> 01:27:22,700
to become a big fish so that's why I

1913
01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:26,120
believe we will go to Mars okay but this

1914
01:27:31,930 --> 01:27:28,880
is the point here about technology if

1915
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:31,940
we're gonna go to Mars if we're gonna

1916
01:27:38,380 --> 01:27:34,610
get there in less than 20 years don't we

1917
01:27:43,470 --> 01:27:38,390
have to have a crash program now to get

1918
01:27:46,660 --> 01:27:43,480
this well here is what is going on

1919
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:46,670
my own belief is the US government has

1920
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:52,570
known about this possibility since 1976

1921
01:27:57,670 --> 01:27:56,090
in fact they have a the Mars the new

1922
01:27:59,770 --> 01:27:57,680
Mars orbiter they have the Mars

1923
01:28:02,320 --> 01:27:59,780
Reconnaissance Orbiter is a spy

1924
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:02,330
satellite this is a satellite that's

1925
01:28:08,770 --> 01:28:04,130
supposed to read license plates on earth

1926
01:28:14,140 --> 01:28:08,780
and it's orbiting Mars they are

1927
01:28:16,930 --> 01:28:14,150
investigating Mars in his in-depth way

1928
01:28:19,420 --> 01:28:16,940
as our technology allows they are

1929
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:19,430
building the Space Launch System based

1930
01:28:27,730 --> 01:28:24,050
on the shuttle components for using for

1931
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shuttle engines big solid boosters in

1932
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:31,210
the central fuel tank of the shuttle

1933
01:28:36,700 --> 01:28:33,770
basically without much modification

1934
01:28:40,660 --> 01:28:36,710
they're putting a capsule on top boom we

1935
01:28:43,210 --> 01:28:40,670
got a saturn v when i saw that they were

1936
01:28:45,460 --> 01:28:43,220
actually going back to a design based

1937
01:28:47,980 --> 01:28:45,470
primarily on the shuttle components

1938
01:28:51,610 --> 01:28:47,990
without any modification i said to a

1939
01:28:54,790 --> 01:28:51,620
colleague it is frightening to see the

1940
01:28:58,020 --> 01:28:54,800
US government do something so logical

1941
01:29:00,910 --> 01:28:58,030
and efficient we must be in deep trouble

1942
01:29:05,110 --> 01:29:00,920
in other words the US government is in a

1943
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:05,120
hurry so we are building the SLS it's

1944
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:08,090
due to launch in its first form in about

1945
01:29:17,260 --> 01:29:12,650
a year or so they just started asking

1946
01:29:19,030 --> 01:29:17,270
for astronauts to train for Mars that

1947
01:29:20,950 --> 01:29:19,040
doesn't sound like somebody who's going

1948
01:29:22,300 --> 01:29:20,960
to go to Mars in 20 years that sounds

1949
01:29:27,310 --> 01:29:22,310
like somebody who's going

1950
01:29:29,650 --> 01:29:27,320
ready to go to Mars soon in by John Wood

1951
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:29,660
John we've got a break coming up in a

1952
01:29:34,420 --> 01:29:31,610
minute but I'll just quickly jump in and

1953
01:29:36,970 --> 01:29:34,430
sound here and this kind of sounds like

1954
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:36,980
you're heading towards an alternative

1955
01:29:42,820 --> 01:29:39,650
three explanation like you know the

1956
01:29:46,150 --> 01:29:42,830
powers that be know something bad is

1957
01:29:48,610 --> 01:29:46,160
imminent and they are you know just

1958
01:29:51,850 --> 01:29:48,620
putting their heads together and getting

1959
01:29:54,070 --> 01:29:51,860
this done because as they see it has to

1960
01:29:59,080 --> 01:29:54,080
be done it's no ifs and buts is that

1961
01:30:01,450 --> 01:29:59,090
where you're going no well I'm saying it

1962
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:01,460
is a necessity now that we are going to

1963
01:30:09,730 --> 01:30:07,610
Mars let's talk about John I got to do

1964
01:30:12,010 --> 01:30:09,740
the break let's talk more about this on

1965
01:30:14,710 --> 01:30:12,020
our next segment okay just remind you to

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even rhymes dr. John Brandenburg talking

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01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:26,720
Mars and Mars exploration with Gene and

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gongs you're in the podcast

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2080
01:35:13,359 --> 01:35:11,090
so gene Steinberg GOx Makai Chris

2081
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:13,369
O'Brien on special assignment we welcome

2082
01:35:21,250 --> 01:35:16,250
dr. John Brandenburg moving from nukes

2083
01:35:24,729 --> 01:35:21,260
on Mars to the imperative to explore it

2084
01:35:27,220 --> 01:35:24,739
now to get there as soon as possible so

2085
01:35:29,890 --> 01:35:27,230
what is your timetable how long is it

2086
01:35:32,109 --> 01:35:29,900
gonna take before humans get there is

2087
01:35:34,300 --> 01:35:32,119
this in any way resemble this program

2088
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:34,310
that has been mentioned where humans

2089
01:35:39,879 --> 01:35:37,010
will go to Mars strictly on a one-way

2090
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:39,889
trip I believe we will have human beings

2091
01:35:46,419 --> 01:35:43,449
on foremost within 10 years many people

2092
01:35:48,459 --> 01:35:46,429
you said food Boston why did you say

2093
01:35:51,220 --> 01:35:48,469
food boss specifically because it's like

2094
01:35:54,310 --> 01:35:51,230
is much easier to land on the surface of

2095
01:35:57,580 --> 01:35:54,320
Mars because less gravity it's a good

2096
01:36:00,629 --> 01:35:57,590
inert in it is an initial beachhead in

2097
01:36:06,700 --> 01:36:00,639
the Mars system it's a ready-made

2098
01:36:08,500 --> 01:36:06,710
orbiting satellite yes okay if you land

2099
01:36:11,410 --> 01:36:08,510
on Phobos and establish a base camp

2100
01:36:15,399 --> 01:36:11,420
there then expeditions of the surface

2101
01:36:18,189 --> 01:36:15,409
can be done within a year or two but

2102
01:36:20,770 --> 01:36:18,199
that would be the first foothold do you

2103
01:36:23,410 --> 01:36:20,780
know if that is in fact has there been

2104
01:36:25,209 --> 01:36:23,420
proposals that do include London and

2105
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:25,219
Phobos because I I've never heard of

2106
01:36:34,180 --> 01:36:30,650
this before yes it considered the first

2107
01:36:36,310 --> 01:36:34,190
easy thing to do especially if you want

2108
01:36:40,810 --> 01:36:36,320
to impress the public that you are

2109
01:36:44,770 --> 01:36:40,820
having a meeting a major milestone it's

2110
01:36:48,939 --> 01:36:44,780
a much safer easier mission than landing

2111
01:36:51,609 --> 01:36:48,949
on the surface and returning but I

2112
01:36:53,709 --> 01:36:51,619
believe we will have I believe we will

2113
01:36:57,450 --> 01:36:53,719
have human beings on Mars within 15

2114
01:37:01,689 --> 01:36:57,460
years John what do you think about the

2115
01:37:04,300 --> 01:37:01,699
you know the appallingly bad record the

2116
01:37:11,370 --> 01:37:04,310
Russia had in attempts to send probes to

2117
01:37:14,850 --> 01:37:11,380
Mars on Mars is a more difficult planet

2118
01:37:17,530 --> 01:37:14,860
the Russians had far more luck at Venus

2119
01:37:18,970 --> 01:37:17,540
and it was partly because their computer

2120
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:18,980
technology was so

2121
01:37:26,860 --> 01:37:22,970
or the communication lag at Mars can be

2122
01:37:28,930 --> 01:37:26,870
much much longer almost an hour compared

2123
01:37:31,900 --> 01:37:28,940
to at Venus and never gets to be more

2124
01:37:33,910 --> 01:37:31,910
than about 20 minutes so they the

2125
01:37:37,150 --> 01:37:33,920
Russians have done a lot of good work

2126
01:37:42,190 --> 01:37:37,160
but they their computer technology was

2127
01:37:44,140 --> 01:37:42,200
always behind ours and but gods I want

2128
01:37:48,190 --> 01:37:44,150
to get back to your idea of this

2129
01:37:50,710 --> 01:37:48,200
alternative three business is you know I

2130
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:50,720
I can't speak to alternative three I

2131
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:53,570
haven't studied it much but the idea

2132
01:37:59,460 --> 01:37:56,930
that this is now an imperative for the

2133
01:38:02,800 --> 01:37:59,470
human race it is no longer optional is

2134
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what I want to emphasize the human race

2135
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is holding a in in the ghost town that

2136
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:09,860
is the cosmos the deserted ruin

2137
01:38:15,010 --> 01:38:12,050
apparently that is the cosmos see the

2138
01:38:18,190 --> 01:38:15,020
human race is having a rock concert with

2139
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Led Zeppelin and they're you know they

2140
01:38:22,870 --> 01:38:19,940
are holding a combination of Burning Man

2141
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and a Led Zeppelin concert in the middle

2142
01:38:28,300 --> 01:38:25,940
of this graveyard that is the anyone who

2143
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wants to see us can see us our radio

2144
01:38:35,700 --> 01:38:30,790
waves are going out in every direction

2145
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:35,710
and so it is only a matter of time

2146
01:38:42,130 --> 01:38:39,530
before someone who does not like who

2147
01:38:46,390 --> 01:38:42,140
finds people like us annoying will come

2148
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:46,400
here and before they come here though we

2149
01:38:53,380 --> 01:38:50,690
must be ready the best way to be ready

2150
01:38:54,300 --> 01:38:53,390
is to go to Mars find out what happened

2151
01:38:58,510 --> 01:38:54,310
exactly

2152
01:39:01,479 --> 01:38:58,520
I've become spacefaring and present them

2153
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:01,489
with an imperial star fleet or the

2154
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federation star from Star Trek one or

2155
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:07,390
the other it doesn't matter which and

2156
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:11,810
and then as obi-wan Kenobi said in the

2157
01:39:16,780 --> 01:39:13,970
bar scene in canteen

2158
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:16,790
this little one is too much trouble to

2159
01:39:25,660 --> 01:39:20,930
bother with my personal opinion is that

2160
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:25,670
you know we hear of China maybe even

2161
01:39:31,350 --> 01:39:28,370
India talking about going to the moon

2162
01:39:34,109 --> 01:39:31,360
and you know Russia

2163
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:34,119
I've talked about going on to Mars and

2164
01:39:39,810 --> 01:39:37,210
stuff right I would find it you know a

2165
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:39,820
bit like how Ronald Reagan said I almost

2166
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:44,290
wish that we could internationally

2167
01:39:48,629 --> 01:39:46,330
except maybe that there is life

2168
01:39:52,500 --> 01:39:48,639
elsewhere in the world in the universe

2169
01:39:55,890 --> 01:39:52,510
or that UFOs are real because it seems

2170
01:39:58,590 --> 01:39:55,900
to me why waste all this parallel effort

2171
01:40:01,890 --> 01:39:58,600
and trying to do the same thing when we

2172
01:40:03,930 --> 01:40:01,900
would probably do a better job if we

2173
01:40:07,979 --> 01:40:03,940
actually did it all together and put

2174
01:40:11,030 --> 01:40:07,989
ours work an annotation is a good

2175
01:40:13,919 --> 01:40:11,040
example of International Cooperation

2176
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:13,929
people in fact were complaining to me

2177
01:40:17,820 --> 01:40:16,090
bitterly this he why did we need the

2178
01:40:20,850 --> 01:40:17,830
Russians to help build a space station

2179
01:40:22,830 --> 01:40:20,860
and I said to them if it wasn't for the

2180
01:40:25,050 --> 01:40:22,840
Russians we wouldn't even have we would

2181
01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:25,060
have a paper space station you know

2182
01:40:31,290 --> 01:40:29,199
consisting of Palace of design studies

2183
01:40:33,959 --> 01:40:31,300
the Russians actually build things and

2184
01:40:37,350 --> 01:40:33,969
puts them in orbits you know you know

2185
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:37,360
Americans have what's called analysis

2186
01:40:45,930 --> 01:40:43,090
paralysis and so the the Russians were

2187
01:40:48,450 --> 01:40:45,940
very instrumental in actually building a

2188
01:40:51,689 --> 01:40:48,460
space station as opposed to designing

2189
01:40:54,689 --> 01:40:51,699
one or thinking about having a space

2190
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:54,699
station which is all the Americans could

2191
01:40:59,990 --> 01:40:57,010
seem to do and and then of course the

2192
01:41:03,919 --> 01:41:00,000
Europeans also joined and the Canadians

2193
01:41:06,419 --> 01:41:03,929
so the space station is serves as a

2194
01:41:08,490 --> 01:41:06,429
example of international cooperation

2195
01:41:11,609 --> 01:41:08,500
space that worked out actually quite

2196
01:41:13,919 --> 01:41:11,619
well I think we if we just extend that

2197
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:13,929
Space Station consortium to Mars

2198
01:41:18,919 --> 01:41:16,810
there should be no trouble so you know

2199
01:41:23,490 --> 01:41:18,929
think that the current issues between

2200
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:23,500
Vladimir Putin and Obama or any of the

2201
01:41:28,050 --> 01:41:25,570
American presidents is going to hurt

2202
01:41:30,060 --> 01:41:28,060
this I don't want to get into the

2203
01:41:32,870 --> 01:41:30,070
politics of it but I think it has far

2204
01:41:38,070 --> 01:41:32,880
more to do the personalities involved

2205
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:38,080
than any geopolitical rivalry I don't

2206
01:41:44,970 --> 01:41:41,290
think I think we have two people who

2207
01:41:52,390 --> 01:41:48,750
and and that's that's the root of that I

2208
01:41:56,440 --> 01:41:52,400
I have been to Russia myself I actually

2209
01:41:57,640 --> 01:41:56,450
speak Russian passably Russia in the

2210
01:42:01,360 --> 01:41:57,650
United States have always been

2211
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:01,370
geopolitical partners traditionally not

2212
01:42:09,940 --> 01:42:07,010
non rivals so I think I think it'll be

2213
01:42:12,370 --> 01:42:09,950
fine especially if I'm on a space

2214
01:42:15,070 --> 01:42:12,380
mission and something goes wrong I would

2215
01:42:17,740 --> 01:42:15,080
much rather have a few cosmonauts

2216
01:42:19,270 --> 01:42:17,750
onboard and some other people simply

2217
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:19,280
because the cosmonauts know how to fix

2218
01:42:24,220 --> 01:42:22,130
things in an emergency as they've gone

2219
01:42:28,060 --> 01:42:24,230
through so many because they're dealing

2220
01:42:31,330 --> 01:42:28,070
with a lesser technology all right so

2221
01:42:36,970 --> 01:42:31,340
the Russians tend to Russian design

2222
01:42:39,700 --> 01:42:36,980
philosophy is you know that these the

2223
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:39,710
Russian philosophy is if it ain't broke

2224
01:42:47,650 --> 01:42:43,130
don't fix it that's right I know once

2225
01:42:49,450 --> 01:42:47,660
they find something that works well is

2226
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:49,460
an unfortunate example of that because

2227
01:42:57,010 --> 01:42:54,650
always shoots our military rifles m16 is

2228
01:42:58,990 --> 01:42:57,020
notorious for jamming if it gets any

2229
01:43:02,140 --> 01:42:59,000
dirt in it imagine going into a war zone

2230
01:43:04,420 --> 01:43:02,150
and and you finding dirt in your gun

2231
01:43:07,510 --> 01:43:04,430
it's you know the Russians know they

2232
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:07,520
know anything the Russians bill will

2233
01:43:14,590 --> 01:43:12,650
operate on Mars though I totally agree

2234
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:14,600
with you John I I just think you know

2235
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:20,210
and then we should be trying to extend a

2236
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:22,370
han to like imagine we could bring in

2237
01:43:28,810 --> 01:43:25,489
the manufacturing power that China and

2238
01:43:31,750 --> 01:43:28,820
India now house instead of stead of

2239
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:31,760
having our little programs I believe all

2240
01:43:37,740 --> 01:43:34,730
of these people will be invited in a

2241
01:43:40,660 --> 01:43:37,750
vast consortium to join in this effort

2242
01:43:44,650 --> 01:43:40,670
maybe not in the initial emissions but

2243
01:43:46,450 --> 01:43:44,660
certainly in the settlement of Mars this

2244
01:43:49,690 --> 01:43:46,460
will cut become very international

2245
01:43:53,470 --> 01:43:49,700
because we have we have to be we will

2246
01:43:56,050 --> 01:43:53,480
have to be stand unified against a

2247
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:56,060
hostile universe we already know the

2248
01:43:59,920 --> 01:43:56,930
universe is

2249
01:44:01,990 --> 01:43:59,930
dangerous there could be a big asteroid

2250
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:02,000
they discover tomorrow that's going to

2251
01:44:07,300 --> 01:44:05,570
hit the earth in a year I examine that

2252
01:44:13,810 --> 01:44:07,310
in science fiction to see what that

2253
01:44:16,930 --> 01:44:13,820
would be like a comet a suit a gamma-ray

2254
01:44:19,270 --> 01:44:16,940
burster or something you know could wipe

2255
01:44:21,970 --> 01:44:19,280
out the earth there are many natural

2256
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:21,980
hazards that could wipe out the human

2257
01:44:27,670 --> 01:44:24,110
race that we know existed in the

2258
01:44:30,250 --> 01:44:27,680
universe now we have added another one

2259
01:44:32,350 --> 01:44:30,260
that the most dangerous thing for

2260
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:32,360
intelligent life in the universe maybe

2261
01:44:36,580 --> 01:44:34,610
other intelligent life and of course

2262
01:44:39,550 --> 01:44:36,590
this is quite consistent with the

2263
01:44:41,770 --> 01:44:39,560
warnings of Stephen Hawking he knows

2264
01:44:44,410 --> 01:44:41,780
better than to know that the universe is

2265
01:44:46,930 --> 01:44:44,420
a much better and kinder and gentler

2266
01:44:49,690 --> 01:44:46,940
place than this planet there's a lot

2267
01:44:52,990 --> 01:44:49,700
more to talk about as we try and figure

2268
01:44:54,940 --> 01:44:53,000
out the best way possibly for humans to

2269
01:44:56,500 --> 01:44:54,950
explore Mars particularly with the

2270
01:44:58,090 --> 01:44:56,510
Americans and the Russians and remember

2271
01:45:01,900 --> 01:44:58,100
of course that on Star Trek we have

2272
01:45:03,730 --> 01:45:01,910
ensign Chekov right of course I don't

2273
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:03,740
really think they developed ensign

2274
01:45:08,350 --> 01:45:07,130
Chekov scare achter all that well on the

2275
01:45:10,210 --> 01:45:08,360
original Star Trek I think it was

2276
01:45:13,630 --> 01:45:10,220
featured in one episode by the way where

2277
01:45:15,700 --> 01:45:13,640
he meets a former girlfriend of his we

2278
01:45:18,610 --> 01:45:15,710
also have dr. John Brandenburg who's

2279
01:45:21,010 --> 01:45:18,620
nine ensign so far as I can tell we've

2280
01:45:27,970 --> 01:45:21,020
got the Cox Makai and gene Steinberg

2281
01:45:36,500 --> 01:45:31,609
thank you for listening to GCS

2282
01:45:40,290 --> 01:45:38,940
first game attack of the rock ODEs and

2283
01:45:42,420 --> 01:45:40,300
it was a critically acclaimed success

2284
01:45:43,950 --> 01:45:42,430
and now there's the coming of the

2285
01:45:46,470 --> 01:45:43,960
protectors a former military

2286
01:45:48,690 --> 01:45:46,480
intelligence man is contacted by a space

2287
01:45:51,300 --> 01:45:48,700
woman in a dream a dream that turns out

2288
01:45:52,830 --> 01:45:51,310
to be a nightmare because evil forces on

2289
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:52,840
our distant planet are planning to

2290
01:45:56,250 --> 01:45:53,890
conquer the earth

2291
01:45:58,710 --> 01:45:56,260
this is gripping science fiction of the

2292
01:46:00,780 --> 01:45:58,720
classic kind attack of the rock codes

2293
01:46:02,700 --> 01:46:00,790
and the coming of the protectors find

2294
01:46:07,140 --> 01:46:02,710
out more at Rocko it's calm

2295
01:46:08,820 --> 01:46:07,150
that's Rockets are Ock oids calm so

2296
01:46:11,670 --> 01:46:08,830
here's what happened I was placing an

2297
01:46:14,580 --> 01:46:11,680
order online the site went down it just

2298
01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:14,590
stopped responding it took hours before

2299
01:46:18,180 --> 01:46:16,480
it returned but I'd already placed the

2300
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:18,190
order with another company if your site

2301
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:20,770
goes down you could lose business and if

2302
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:22,330
you have a business or personal site

2303
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:24,730
you'll want to know it's easy to run and

2304
01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:28,210
it will stay online at AI web your site

2305
01:46:34,170 --> 01:46:30,880
is hosted on one of the most reliable

2306
01:46:38,260 --> 01:46:34,180
networks in the world check it out I web

2307
01:46:40,570 --> 01:46:38,270
comm that's iWeb comm

2308
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:40,580
as if chlorine in our water weren't bad

2309
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:43,250
enough now they're adding ammonia it's

2310
01:46:46,930 --> 01:46:45,050
true some of you this apologies are now

2311
01:46:47,890 --> 01:46:46,940
adding ammonia plus chlorine to your

2312
01:46:49,750 --> 01:46:47,900
water supply

2313
01:46:51,850 --> 01:46:49,760
it's a disinfectant called chloramine

2314
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:51,860
but with a trusted big berkey water

2315
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:54,290
filter you can keep chloramine out of

2316
01:46:59,710 --> 01:46:57,410
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2317
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2318
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2319
01:47:08,140 --> 01:47:05,330
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2320
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forms of fluoride and much more big

2321
01:47:12,190 --> 01:47:09,980
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2322
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and most trusted on the market the gold

2323
01:47:17,470 --> 01:47:14,840
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2324
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:17,480
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2325
01:47:22,660 --> 01:47:20,210
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2326
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:22,670
powerful enough to purify stagnant pond

2327
01:47:28,780 --> 01:47:25,970
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2328
01:47:32,620 --> 01:47:28,790
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2329
01:47:36,100 --> 01:47:32,630
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2330
01:47:45,250 --> 01:47:36,110
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2331
01:47:53,290 --> 01:47:48,979
welcome back to the para cast the gold

2332
01:48:01,880 --> 01:47:53,300
standard of paranormal radio and now

2333
01:48:03,740 --> 01:48:01,890
here's Jane Steinberg so therefore I'll

2334
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:03,750
have you do it next time John okay we

2335
01:48:09,649 --> 01:48:06,570
have dr. John Brandenburg with us I'm

2336
01:48:11,390 --> 01:48:09,659
Jean Steinberg he's GOG Makai Chris

2337
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:11,400
O'Brien's on special assignment and

2338
01:48:14,899 --> 01:48:13,050
we're trying to assemble the space

2339
01:48:17,570 --> 01:48:14,909
program here so ideally it's the

2340
01:48:19,399 --> 01:48:17,580
Americans and the Russians and the

2341
01:48:22,459 --> 01:48:19,409
Chinese aren't gonna be involved or what

2342
01:48:26,410 --> 01:48:22,469
the rest of the Europeans should tag

2343
01:48:28,910 --> 01:48:26,420
along and the Chinese space program

2344
01:48:32,030 --> 01:48:28,920
though it has you know made some notable

2345
01:48:35,419 --> 01:48:32,040
accomplishments I think like the a

2346
01:48:38,450 --> 01:48:35,429
Chinese economy is much much hyped and

2347
01:48:40,459 --> 01:48:38,460
overblown anyway let's just assume that

2348
01:48:43,630 --> 01:48:40,469
the space station consortium goes to

2349
01:48:45,950 --> 01:48:43,640
Mars and explores Mars together

2350
01:48:49,850 --> 01:48:45,960
particularly with the Russians along so

2351
01:48:53,149 --> 01:48:49,860
no one gets by the way I think it's my

2352
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:53,159
best opinion that the civilization on

2353
01:48:58,310 --> 01:48:55,650
Mars was very primitive but I don't know

2354
01:49:00,200 --> 01:48:58,320
that there could be advanced technology

2355
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:00,210
buried in the ruins that we don't know

2356
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:02,010
about it could change the balance of

2357
01:49:07,669 --> 01:49:04,489
power on earth it would be much more

2358
01:49:09,850 --> 01:49:07,679
stabilizing internationally if it was in

2359
01:49:14,780 --> 01:49:09,860
the International expedition to Mars

2360
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:14,790
John what about possibilities of energy

2361
01:49:21,110 --> 01:49:16,890
and mineral supplies that kind of thing

2362
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:21,120
on Mars oh well there's clearly plenty

2363
01:49:26,689 --> 01:49:24,960
of thorium and uranium on Mars there's

2364
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:26,699
also plenty of water and that means

2365
01:49:32,750 --> 01:49:29,730
heavy hydrogen for fusion energy I am a

2366
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:32,760
proponent by the way of fission hybrid

2367
01:49:39,860 --> 01:49:36,449
energy that enables us to make combined

2368
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:39,870
fusion in vision to make a much safer

2369
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:42,570
cleaner form of nuclear power but the

2370
01:49:48,260 --> 01:49:45,810
logistics here we obviously can't just

2371
01:49:50,540 --> 01:49:48,270
ship stuff back and forth from Mars we'd

2372
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:50,550
have to set up a base there long term

2373
01:49:54,709 --> 01:49:52,290
basis and then find some way to

2374
01:49:57,800 --> 01:49:54,719
transport these minerals because our

2375
01:50:00,380 --> 01:49:57,810
space travel system that was not nearly

2376
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:00,390
efficient enough for that no we need

2377
01:50:05,870 --> 01:50:03,210
much more advanced space technologies my

2378
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:05,880
by the way you asked me a question at

2379
01:50:11,060 --> 01:50:07,650
the very being how does it play a plasma

2380
01:50:13,580 --> 01:50:11,070
physicist gets it end up on Mars well

2381
01:50:15,950 --> 01:50:13,590
that was not my original plan my

2382
01:50:18,730 --> 01:50:15,960
original plan was to work on the unified

2383
01:50:22,100 --> 01:50:18,740
field theory in the path of Einstein

2384
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:22,110
trying to utilize see if we could use

2385
01:50:28,790 --> 01:50:24,690
strong electromagnetic fields to modify

2386
01:50:32,030 --> 01:50:28,800
gravity for propulsion and various other

2387
01:50:34,790 --> 01:50:32,040
applications and I've continued working

2388
01:50:36,350 --> 01:50:34,800
on that all during this period so I have

2389
01:50:39,230 --> 01:50:36,360
many publications on that it's called

2390
01:50:40,790 --> 01:50:39,240
the gem unification theory so I believe

2391
01:50:43,340 --> 01:50:40,800
there will be breakthroughs in space

2392
01:50:47,330 --> 01:50:43,350
propulsion they will enable us to get to

2393
01:50:51,530 --> 01:50:47,340
Mars much quicker now than we we can now

2394
01:50:53,900 --> 01:50:51,540
well John what do you do you presume

2395
01:50:57,170 --> 01:50:53,910
you'll know about Canadian John

2396
01:51:00,350 --> 01:50:57,180
Hutchison and if so do you believe in

2397
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:00,360
and then so-called Hutchison effect if

2398
01:51:06,830 --> 01:51:03,330
something like the Hutchinson effect is

2399
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:06,840
out there right now I I'm concerned

2400
01:51:12,740 --> 01:51:10,530
consulted quite closely with the Eagle

2401
01:51:16,580 --> 01:51:12,750
works people at NASA who are running the

2402
01:51:19,930 --> 01:51:16,590
shared life device is where you fire

2403
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:19,940
microwaves into a kind of cone-shaped

2404
01:51:26,780 --> 01:51:23,090
chamber and you achieve Frost from that

2405
01:51:29,990 --> 01:51:26,790
and just pushing it really it's like

2406
01:51:32,090 --> 01:51:30,000
pushing it yes and it's I have actually

2407
01:51:34,610 --> 01:51:32,100
published presented a paper at a

2408
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:34,620
conference where I explained that using

2409
01:51:39,260 --> 01:51:37,290
the unification theory I've worked on

2410
01:51:41,390 --> 01:51:39,270
they are basically using

2411
01:51:44,870 --> 01:51:41,400
electromagnetism to directly modify

2412
01:51:46,850 --> 01:51:44,880
space-time and so people ask me well

2413
01:51:48,500 --> 01:51:46,860
where's the reaction you know Isaac

2414
01:51:51,020 --> 01:51:48,510
Newton's third law says if you're going

2415
01:51:53,330 --> 01:51:51,030
to have a push something has got to be

2416
01:51:56,900 --> 01:51:53,340
pulled someplace and I said that's the

2417
01:51:59,510 --> 01:51:56,910
earth the earth in the electromagnetic

2418
01:52:01,400 --> 01:51:59,520
field in the container are connected by

2419
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:01,410
the Earth's gravity field curved

2420
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space-time and that is providing the

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momentum conservation so anyway there's

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great very exciting things that are

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coming

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01:52:17,090 --> 01:52:15,420
long I think I did see a brief video of

2425
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the Hutchinson's effect but many things

2426
01:52:22,010 --> 01:52:18,990
so many things were going things were

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01:52:24,140 --> 01:52:22,020
flying around and it wasn't quite clear

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01:52:27,050 --> 01:52:24,150
what the effect was there were many

2429
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effects visible so but something like

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that I believe we will harness

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understand and harness and turn into a

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propulsion technology well bottom line

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black projects do you think maybe

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somebody somewhere has you know really

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stumbled on to anti-gravity because I

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should probably solely the pub the

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public's of face of anti-gravity

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research just disappeared in the 1950s

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and that to me and a lot of other people

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just kind of indicates that it was

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forced from public view probably because

2442
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it was going somewhere Oh God

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Einstein complained he was working very

2444
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hard on a unified field theory to unify

2445
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gravity and electromagnetism and he

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complained that the government seemed to

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be discouraging him from pursuing his

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research in the United States and he

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speculated that this that he might be

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interfering with some kind of classified

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effort and so the rumor here is these

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rumored secret history which is quite

2453
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fascinating is that that the the Germans

2454
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using Kaluza Klein theory apparently

2455
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which Einstein helps publish which

2456
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invokes have hidden the fifth dimension

2457
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that the Germans made great progress

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during World War two did not see pal the

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Nazi bell

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and then that the but that they they did

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not have power sources that were light

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enough to power it so they all like it

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end up doing was just having things

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tethered by power obviously it didn't

2465
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win the war for them we can be sure of

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that and so they ended up producing only

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a

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turbine technology with turbo

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alternators to generate large amounts of

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electric power was a very small amount

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of weight we were able to make flying

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machines so basically yes what you're

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seeing is that in world war two the

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nazis didn't have a miniaturized enough

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and look just source but now they could

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do is connect a big generator to a big

2477
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airplane engine and run it that way and

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then i'm sure an aerodynamic engineer

2479
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looked at the whole set up it could not

2480
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lift itself lift its own weight and said

2481
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well if you would just connect the

2482
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airplane engine to propeller we could

2483
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fly this whole thing yeah

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but copper windings and generators and

2485
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things are very heavy so they but they

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say that by the 1980s

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well with super conductivity

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superconductors technology had advanced

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that the US government managed to make

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flying machines that flew quite well

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very self-contained and they use jet

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turbine technology to fly within the

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atmosphere and short distances outside

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of it and so that in in one sense the

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there is as an engineering solution has

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been found to this so we basically have

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that technology there were rumors that

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the US government would like to

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declassify that technology and make it

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engines industry and that that that sort

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dr. John Brandenburg is one of our best

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presenters of the parish as ever I can

2622
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:09,530
all my old Scottish ancestors every once

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02:02:13,689 --> 02:02:12,050
in a while well we have gog who doesn't

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have to channel he just has to open that

2625
02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:17,119
i have my old ancestor Fergus head of

2626
02:02:21,700 --> 02:02:19,730
his clan franks to me that he's killed

2627
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:21,710
many a man over the colors of his kilt

2628
02:02:27,609 --> 02:02:24,050
but I think he's exaggerating I think

2629
02:02:29,379 --> 02:02:27,619
he's only killed three or four okay well

2630
02:02:32,709 --> 02:02:29,389
this joke is going to be kilt in a

2631
02:02:34,540 --> 02:02:32,719
moment you had kind of a long answer and

2632
02:02:37,899 --> 02:02:34,550
explanation our last segment I'd like

2633
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:37,909
you to finish that and then go on it is

2634
02:02:43,060 --> 02:02:39,650
rumored that the u.s. government has

2635
02:02:45,009 --> 02:02:43,070
mastered anti-gravity flight well I

2636
02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:45,019
heard all sorts of stories about

2637
02:02:53,229 --> 02:02:48,730
research into that expand on that please

2638
02:02:56,410 --> 02:02:53,239
well you basically need a some kind of

2639
02:02:59,290 --> 02:02:56,420
rudimentary theory that unifies gravity

2640
02:03:01,629 --> 02:02:59,300
and electromagnetism and the US

2641
02:03:05,500 --> 02:03:01,639
government has sort of theories like

2642
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that it also has apparently some some

2643
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items of technologies that actually work

2644
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never mind how they got them but so

2645
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between reversal reverse engineering and

2646
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some trial

2647
02:03:23,839 --> 02:03:21,199
an error and some rudimentary theory

2648
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they managed to make great progress so

2649
02:03:27,500 --> 02:03:25,559
now they have operating systems that's

2650
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just what I've heard well if we can do

2651
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anti-gravity wouldn't that be almost

2652
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like free energy to some I know that's

2653
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those two things are quite different I

2654
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can elaborate on that according to the

2655
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theory I've I've worked on which was

2656
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developed partly by Andrei Sakharov if

2657
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you want to harness energy from the zero

2658
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point fluctuations spectrum predicted by

2659
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quantum mechanics which by the way was

2660
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Einstein's discovery the best example of

2661
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of having a free energy generator is to

2662
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have a miniature black hole and began

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feeding it things trash from around your

2664
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house and as the trash falls in there

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arises and gets hot and you can generate

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electricity from that and it's like

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Little Shop of Horrors finally you have

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this little thing that you constantly

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feed keep saying feed me feed me feed me

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it's paying your electric bills but

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eventually it's going to eat your house

2672
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and ultimately your entire planet that's

2673
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better that is free energy from zero

2674
02:04:42,199 --> 02:04:39,959
point fluctuation so we don't want that

2675
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kind of free energy much better to use

2676
02:04:48,589 --> 02:04:46,559
fusion energy so John but if we have if

2677
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the US government has some kind of

2678
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working anti-gravity then what work and

2679
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I wanted to go to here is it should

2680
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obviously make getting into orbit and

2681
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breaking away from the Earth's gravity

2682
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to go to Mars then obviously that's a

2683
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lot easier to use these kind of methods

2684
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rather than rocket propulsion and and if

2685
02:05:13,939 --> 02:05:11,159
we could if we could use all the kind of

2686
02:05:16,939 --> 02:05:13,949
you know the size of these ships if we

2687
02:05:21,169 --> 02:05:16,949
could use that for supply is rather than

2688
02:05:23,270 --> 02:05:21,179
just pure solid rocket fuel you know

2689
02:05:25,399 --> 02:05:23,280
just make the whole going to Mars and

2690
02:05:29,209 --> 02:05:25,409
starting our base they are so much

2691
02:05:32,060 --> 02:05:29,219
easier that's that's true especially for

2692
02:05:36,500 --> 02:05:32,070
high-value cargoes

2693
02:05:38,780 --> 02:05:36,510
like many technologies you know when

2694
02:05:39,530 --> 02:05:38,790
they invented gas turbine technologies

2695
02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:39,540
for ships

2696
02:05:46,670 --> 02:05:41,370
you know steam turbine technology for

2697
02:05:50,990 --> 02:05:46,680
ships did not disappear gas turbines are

2698
02:05:53,210 --> 02:05:51,000
used for very high-speed warships but

2699
02:05:56,780 --> 02:05:53,220
steam turbine technology is used for

2700
02:05:59,000 --> 02:05:56,790
larger ships parenthetically I just want

2701
02:06:03,070 --> 02:05:59,010
to ask this some years back didn't

2702
02:06:06,650 --> 02:06:03,080
Chrysler try to sell a gas turbine car

2703
02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:06,660
yes they periodically people have tried

2704
02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:09,810
to do things like this you know gas

2705
02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:11,970
turbines are really good for aircraft

2706
02:06:17,540 --> 02:06:15,570
and even for tanks where you need a lot

2707
02:06:21,170 --> 02:06:17,550
of power from a small lightweight

2708
02:06:23,750 --> 02:06:21,180
package but for other applications

2709
02:06:26,690 --> 02:06:23,760
they're not quite practical at all they

2710
02:06:30,830 --> 02:06:26,700
they confirm a lot of fuel so I'm just

2711
02:06:34,360 --> 02:06:30,840
saying that it's possible that since

2712
02:06:40,700 --> 02:06:34,370
we've been building Rockets now for

2713
02:06:41,900 --> 02:06:40,710
almost a century sheet net and it's

2714
02:06:46,400 --> 02:06:41,910
basically reduced to sheet metal

2715
02:06:50,420 --> 02:06:46,410
technology putting a hundred tons into

2716
02:06:52,910 --> 02:06:50,430
Mars orbit using a big rocket may be

2717
02:06:55,490 --> 02:06:52,920
much cheaper than bringing it with even

2718
02:06:57,650 --> 02:06:55,500
anti-gravity technology the antigravity

2719
02:07:01,310 --> 02:06:57,660
technology would be used for to carry

2720
02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:01,320
people they're much more quickly but if

2721
02:07:04,970 --> 02:07:02,850
you if you don't care when something

2722
02:07:07,210 --> 02:07:04,980
arrives you would probably use a big

2723
02:07:11,870 --> 02:07:07,220
rocket at least for the near future so

2724
02:07:14,480 --> 02:07:11,880
all of these things may factor in to

2725
02:07:17,570 --> 02:07:14,490
getting us to Mars far more quickly than

2726
02:07:19,640 --> 02:07:17,580
we anticipate assuming we haven't

2727
02:07:25,100 --> 02:07:19,650
reverse engineered something from UFOs

2728
02:07:27,920 --> 02:07:25,110
oh well like I said the government is

2729
02:07:31,670 --> 02:07:27,930
reported that it had some working

2730
02:07:34,070 --> 02:07:31,680
technology that it acquired and whenever

2731
02:07:39,770 --> 02:07:34,080
I would ask how they acquire it and they

2732
02:07:43,190 --> 02:07:39,780
would say don't ask so no questions

2733
02:07:46,220 --> 02:07:43,200
asked in that department obviously there

2734
02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:52,010
that would presume a lot of things if

2735
02:07:57,470 --> 02:07:55,530
there were aliens flying around us with

2736
02:07:59,720 --> 02:07:57,480
anti-gravity technology and then that

2737
02:08:02,000 --> 02:07:59,730
meant that we had some that would it

2738
02:08:05,630 --> 02:08:02,010
just that would mean that we either had

2739
02:08:09,940 --> 02:08:05,640
traded with them or shot some of them

2740
02:08:13,430 --> 02:08:09,950
down or they'd crashed by accident and

2741
02:08:18,490 --> 02:08:13,440
from the reports I've heard to the

2742
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:21,470
it's all I wrote a science fiction novel

2743
02:08:28,970 --> 02:08:27,090
on this because it's very I as I

2744
02:08:31,700 --> 02:08:28,980
complained to one fellow in the UFO

2745
02:08:34,670 --> 02:08:31,710
field Don Ecker I said the problem with

2746
02:08:36,920 --> 02:08:34,680
this field Don is there are no facts as

2747
02:08:40,820 --> 02:08:36,930
a scientist I like to have facts you

2748
02:08:42,710 --> 02:08:40,830
know data real data and there isn't any

2749
02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:42,720
you know all we have are reports and

2750
02:08:51,590 --> 02:08:48,690
rumors and so funniest thing I heard was

2751
02:08:54,380 --> 02:08:51,600
that the Rushton versus the American

2752
02:08:57,250 --> 02:08:54,390
attitude toward UFOs during the Cold War

2753
02:09:01,400 --> 02:08:57,260
and how the Russians may have acquired

2754
02:09:03,890 --> 02:09:01,410
some UFO hardware was the Russians

2755
02:09:05,930 --> 02:09:03,900
assumed any strange flying object over

2756
02:09:09,290 --> 02:09:05,940
their country during the Cold War was

2757
02:09:13,010 --> 02:09:09,300
American so they would scramble there

2758
02:09:14,780 --> 02:09:13,020
that Air Force to go chase it and after

2759
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:14,790
losing a lot of MiG's apparently they

2760
02:09:20,720 --> 02:09:18,570
ultimately down one and they Russian

2761
02:09:23,990 --> 02:09:20,730
troops arrived to open it up and cordon

2762
02:09:25,850 --> 02:09:24,000
off the area and they opened up the

2763
02:09:30,890 --> 02:09:25,860
hatch and look inside and were surprised

2764
02:09:35,950 --> 02:09:30,900
to not see any Americans inside it was

2765
02:09:39,380 --> 02:09:35,960
the Chinese something like that and then

2766
02:09:41,810 --> 02:09:39,390
but by the mid-60s the Russians being

2767
02:09:44,390 --> 02:09:41,820
very suspicious decided that the United

2768
02:09:46,160 --> 02:09:44,400
States was talking to some of the aliens

2769
02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:46,170
so the aliens were probably working for

2770
02:09:51,770 --> 02:09:49,490
the Americans so that's that's why the

2771
02:09:55,760 --> 02:09:51,780
that use the stories you hear as the

2772
02:09:57,860 --> 02:09:55,770
aliens and the Russians do not get along

2773
02:09:59,870 --> 02:09:57,870
well the aliens therefore if they were

2774
02:10:02,270 --> 02:09:59,880
to make a mast landing would be in from

2775
02:10:04,310 --> 02:10:02,280
the White House lawn but unfortunately

2776
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:04,320
it would not be believed because nobody

2777
02:10:08,540 --> 02:10:05,970
believes what the president says anymore

2778
02:10:11,150 --> 02:10:08,550
it's just going to be span and Fox News

2779
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:11,160
is going to say it's an evil plot to get

2780
02:10:17,270 --> 02:10:14,010
Hillary Clinton elected right we've got

2781
02:10:28,460 --> 02:10:17,280
dr. John Brandenburg joining us this

2782
02:10:31,310 --> 02:10:28,470
week with Gene and GOG x' you're in you

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Villa do you owe the IRS money you can't

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pay our tax that's crippling you I've

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thirty years I've helped thousands and I

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can help you too I wrote the book on IRS

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imagined from where we shop to the

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family you want to protect look I've

2818
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made predictions like this before

2819
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a few years ago I warned that the

2820
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housing prices would collapse before

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that I warned that dot-com companies

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would crash and they did those who

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listened had a chance to save themselves

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2897
02:15:57,290 --> 02:15:54,540
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2898
02:16:00,530 --> 02:15:57,300
from the questions we've asked I've just

2899
02:16:02,330 --> 02:16:00,540
been looking Gina and a few of them I

2900
02:16:05,800 --> 02:16:02,340
think we've covered but I've got a

2901
02:16:10,730 --> 02:16:05,810
question here from for a member sublight

2902
02:16:14,030 --> 02:16:10,740
who joined the forum in October 2014 so

2903
02:16:18,080 --> 02:16:14,040
it's just over a year on this question

2904
02:16:20,960 --> 02:16:18,090
for John is dr. Brandenburg a lot of

2905
02:16:23,630 --> 02:16:20,970
people speculate that cosmic events have

2906
02:16:25,540 --> 02:16:23,640
taken place in the past involving what I

2907
02:16:28,220 --> 02:16:25,550
would assume to be mechanical devices

2908
02:16:32,390 --> 02:16:28,230
such as an ancient space failing

2909
02:16:34,610 --> 02:16:32,400
capability or extraterrestrial or as you

2910
02:16:38,030 --> 02:16:34,620
would put it in a nuclear war from eons

2911
02:16:40,580 --> 02:16:38,040
ago wouldn't the debris or leftover

2912
02:16:42,680 --> 02:16:40,590
mechanisms from those time periods still

2913
02:16:46,130 --> 02:16:42,690
exists somewhere wouldn't there be

2914
02:16:47,990 --> 02:16:46,140
pieces orbiting around Mars or fragments

2915
02:16:48,960 --> 02:16:48,000
or even whole magnums that could be

2916
02:16:51,270 --> 02:16:48,970
detected now

2917
02:16:52,890 --> 02:16:51,280
to space so I think you may be of

2918
02:16:55,970 --> 02:16:52,900
already covered that and that you don't

2919
02:17:00,480 --> 02:16:55,980
think any Mars civilization was that

2920
02:17:04,020 --> 02:17:00,490
technological right gods but I as I also

2921
02:17:07,350 --> 02:17:04,030
say I don't know the level of technology

2922
02:17:10,081 --> 02:17:07,360
on the de Martian so I am convinced that

2923
02:17:12,720 --> 02:17:10,091
that civilization exists but I do not

2924
02:17:16,260 --> 02:17:12,730
know precisely what its technological

2925
02:17:18,991 --> 02:17:16,270
level was the best working hypothesis

2926
02:17:22,710 --> 02:17:19,001
right now is that it was not advanced

2927
02:17:24,901 --> 02:17:22,720
and since we have we have received no

2928
02:17:28,411 --> 02:17:24,911
reports of any kind of orbiting

2929
02:17:30,411 --> 02:17:28,421
mechanisms are on Mars and the pictures

2930
02:17:34,531 --> 02:17:30,421
of Phobos and Deimos don't look like

2931
02:17:37,800 --> 02:17:34,541
anything artificial I would assume that

2932
02:17:42,090 --> 02:17:37,810
that's all fairly a fairly consistent

2933
02:17:45,750 --> 02:17:42,100
story but like I say it is only a

2934
02:17:49,441 --> 02:17:45,760
working hypothesis that the civilization

2935
02:17:52,020 --> 02:17:49,451
was primitive based on its based on the

2936
02:17:53,850 --> 02:17:52,030
earth reference model so what do you

2937
02:17:56,701 --> 02:17:53,860
think about that this interesting

2938
02:17:59,161 --> 02:17:56,711
episode that I'm sure Don ackers

2939
02:18:03,031 --> 02:17:59,171
probably talk to talk to about it with

2940
02:18:05,130 --> 02:18:03,041
you and this photograph from the Martian

2941
02:18:08,670 --> 02:18:05,140
surface taken from one of the Russian

2942
02:18:11,340 --> 02:18:08,680
probes oh yes this you know huge

2943
02:18:14,730 --> 02:18:11,350
elliptical yeah there's huge elliptical

2944
02:18:16,890 --> 02:18:14,740
shadow that was present fried on Iran

2945
02:18:19,861 --> 02:18:16,900
and our torso on the surface that yeah I

2946
02:18:21,750 --> 02:18:19,871
just had to be a real large object I

2947
02:18:26,100 --> 02:18:21,760
don't believe it was any kind of camera

2948
02:18:31,890 --> 02:18:26,110
malfunction yeah I mean it was discussed

2949
02:18:34,321 --> 02:18:31,900
in the magazine that all US space people

2950
02:18:36,241 --> 02:18:34,331
read in this country was called Aviation

2951
02:18:40,020 --> 02:18:36,251
Week and space technology was also

2952
02:18:43,050 --> 02:18:40,030
called aviation leak and all right they

2953
02:18:45,720 --> 02:18:43,060
discussed at length the object being

2954
02:18:50,550 --> 02:18:45,730
photographed by the Phobos but then

2955
02:18:53,941 --> 02:18:50,560
refused to show any pictures of it so it

2956
02:18:57,151 --> 02:18:53,951
was it was widely reported in this

2957
02:19:00,210 --> 02:18:57,161
country that yes the Phobos had Palast

2958
02:19:02,760 --> 02:19:00,220
images from the Phobos probe or of a

2959
02:19:07,419 --> 02:19:02,770
large cylindrical object approaching

2960
02:19:11,290 --> 02:19:07,429
and unfortunately those pictures were

2961
02:19:12,880 --> 02:19:11,300
not widely distributed publicly in this

2962
02:19:14,500 --> 02:19:12,890
country of course the only people who

2963
02:19:17,110 --> 02:19:14,510
would have been able to see them with

2964
02:19:20,950 --> 02:19:17,120
Russians they chose not to spread them

2965
02:19:25,630 --> 02:19:20,960
around the only Theory offered during

2966
02:19:29,800 --> 02:19:25,640
aviation the aviation magazine was that

2967
02:19:31,450 --> 02:19:29,810
it was perhaps a fuel a fuel tank from

2968
02:19:34,959 --> 02:19:31,460
earlier in the mission that had been

2969
02:19:39,610 --> 02:19:34,969
ejected and had followed the craft to

2970
02:19:41,140 --> 02:19:39,620
Mars which is I'm being polite and just

2971
02:19:48,220 --> 02:19:41,150
saying that is an absolutely ludicrous

2972
02:19:52,150 --> 02:19:48,230
theory believe me I'm very charitable

2973
02:19:54,790 --> 02:19:52,160
that's a ridiculous idea there's a fuel

2974
02:19:59,290 --> 02:19:54,800
tank can follow spacecraft to Mars like

2975
02:20:01,990 --> 02:19:59,300
a lost dog chasing a car yeah so John

2976
02:20:03,850 --> 02:20:02,000
what about if we move out further in the

2977
02:20:05,980 --> 02:20:03,860
solar system into some of the other

2978
02:20:08,950 --> 02:20:05,990
planets and do you have any kind of

2979
02:20:12,030 --> 02:20:08,960
particular interest in you know what's

2980
02:20:14,890 --> 02:20:12,040
going on on some of the if we believe

2981
02:20:17,011 --> 02:20:14,900
once you have found a dead civilization

2982
02:20:22,060 --> 02:20:17,021
on Mars you have to start looking at

2983
02:20:24,690 --> 02:20:22,070
everything with new eyes instead of

2984
02:20:28,511 --> 02:20:24,700
ignoring things that may look like a

2985
02:20:31,720 --> 02:20:28,521
wrecked space station or a old you know

2986
02:20:34,540 --> 02:20:31,730
old abandoned facilities on Ceres for

2987
02:20:37,720 --> 02:20:34,550
instance instead of like we have those

2988
02:20:39,100 --> 02:20:37,730
bright spots on Ceres you know they they

2989
02:20:41,381 --> 02:20:39,110
can't seem to identify

2990
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despite having all of the sensors on the

2991
02:20:45,790 --> 02:20:43,970
series probe you know it was if it's

2992
02:20:48,220 --> 02:20:45,800
water why don't they just say it's water

2993
02:20:48,881 --> 02:20:48,230
vapor or water vapors they're easy to

2994
02:20:51,460 --> 02:20:48,891
spot

2995
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you know from its infrared signature and

2996
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it's the fact that they won't give a

2997
02:21:00,341 --> 02:20:58,040
what are we to assume that the Elat that

2998
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the the bright areas are not part of

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elements recognized from the periodic

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table I mean they have all sorts of

3001
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probes you infrared multi spectral

3002
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imaging they should be able to figure

3003
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out what these things are and so if we

3004
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find a dead civilization on Mars which

3005
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we have found

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which obviously who apparently was

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destroyed by another more

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technologically advanced spacefaring

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race then you the moment you find

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anything like the bright spots on Ceres

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the first thing you should investigate

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as to whether it might be a abandoned

3013
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space facility or something or an

3014
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abandoned mine from some other success

3015
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bearing species from long ago you have

3016
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to assume that other species have been

3017
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in the solar system

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perhaps mining resources or just having

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military bases or something and just go

3020
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looking for them if I should here before

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we go on John I know GOx is waiting in

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the wings for a question all right so if

3023
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we have a spacefaring race setting up a

3024
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base on Mars there's a base there ET is

3025
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there alright so when we send our dumb

3026
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little probes like the Mars rover lands

3027
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they're looking for rocks et is just

3028
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going to ignore it or hide if they have

3029
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to well you you have to look into

3030
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science fiction scenario is basically to

3031
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figure out what does a more advanced

3032
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race that is perhaps here in a very

3033
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small perhaps a very small outpost here

3034
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and this local species the human race is

3035
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getting very rambunctious and sending

3036
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probes around and you're basically it's

3037
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beginning to really crimp your

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operational abilities we are orbiting as

3039
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the around the moon on the lunar

3040
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reconnaissance orbiter which can read

3041
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license plates on the moon it's very

3042
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very difficult to do anything on the

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moon if you're an advanced race with a

3044
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base there that the US government is not

3045
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observing constantly and as far as a

3046
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rover on Mars um of course you've

3047
02:23:28,200 --> 02:23:21,590
noticed they have observed strange

3048
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lights in the distance sooner or later

3049
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Murphy's Law would in

3050
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the case they're going to just

3051
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photograph something artificial in a

3052
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distance if course it probably will

3053
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never make it out of the lab it jet

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propulsion the imaging lab it's a

3055
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propulsion lab yeah it could've happened

3056
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already it could have happened already

3057
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and so I think whoever if there are ETS

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in the solar system operating right now

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they certainly don't want any trouble or

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contact with us directly I certainly

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on Mars and on the moon that they are as

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peace loving nature is concerned there's

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would they do something nasty to us most

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night all of the nuclear weapons on

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earth so the US government when the

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Roswell incident occurred was confronted

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with the fact that someone was here

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basically scouting our most important

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strategic weapons and had would have

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would have had to have made the worst

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possible drawing the worst possible

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conclusions about that parts of the

3198
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universe are probably not very friendly

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at all parts of the universe on the

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other hand may be quite friendly to us

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so it's kind of like having the Vulcans

3202
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and the Klingons

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science fiction is I think a better

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guide than science right now and so I

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think we should just be hopeful about

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the future go up to Mars find out what

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happened become spacefaring and launched

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with the crew of the original enterprise

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which i think was about a hundred years

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earlier that's right well you notice

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whenever the in the movies whenever the

3214
02:30:57,300 --> 02:30:56,100
Captain Picard got in real trouble he

3215
02:31:00,570 --> 02:30:57,310
called on Captain Kirk

3216
02:31:04,500 --> 02:31:00,580
[Laughter]

3217
02:31:06,270 --> 02:31:04,510
so anyway I believe that the future will

3218
02:31:09,030 --> 02:31:06,280
be very bright for the human race the

3219
02:31:11,059 --> 02:31:09,040
other thing is gonna be fine so if we

3220
02:31:14,639 --> 02:31:11,069
don't screw ourselves in I mean title

3221
02:31:18,559 --> 02:31:14,649
like that so you don't expect us to

3222
02:31:20,969 --> 02:31:18,569
screw ourselves in the mean time well

3223
02:31:23,849 --> 02:31:20,979
being human beings there's always a

3224
02:31:26,880 --> 02:31:23,859
danger of a gene well right we could

3225
02:31:30,599 --> 02:31:26,890
just do anything to mess us up well one

3226
02:31:33,750 --> 02:31:30,609
of the key things for the human race is

3227
02:31:36,270 --> 02:31:33,760
always giving and I raised I raised

3228
02:31:38,460 --> 02:31:36,280
three children one of the things is

3229
02:31:44,010 --> 02:31:38,470
keeping them focused on something

3230
02:31:45,900 --> 02:31:44,020
positive all right keep them focused on

3231
02:31:48,750 --> 02:31:45,910
something positive all right we have a

3232
02:31:51,929 --> 02:31:48,760
few minutes left I just want to just go

3233
02:31:53,730 --> 02:31:51,939
quickly into a couple of areas here now

3234
02:31:54,929 --> 02:31:53,740
we know about the thing that's happening

3235
02:31:56,490 --> 02:31:54,939
with the revelations about the

3236
02:31:58,800 --> 02:31:56,500
atmosphere which is what do you expect

3237
02:32:00,179 --> 02:31:58,810
and we'll say just a day or two after

3238
02:32:02,969 --> 02:32:00,189
the show is heard by most of our

3239
02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:02,979
listeners but where do we go next in

3240
02:32:08,460 --> 02:32:06,010
Mars exploration what do you think is

3241
02:32:11,940 --> 02:32:08,470
gonna happen from NASA or any of the

3242
02:32:13,770 --> 02:32:11,950
government agencies well the government

3243
02:32:17,340 --> 02:32:13,780
has you know announced there was liquid

3244
02:32:18,840 --> 02:32:17,350
water on Mars and most people assume

3245
02:32:21,270 --> 02:32:18,850
that if there's liquid water there's

3246
02:32:23,610 --> 02:32:21,280
there's life Michael eaves microbial

3247
02:32:25,860 --> 02:32:23,620
life now they're going to announce that

3248
02:32:28,170 --> 02:32:25,870
Mars atmosphere was much denser in the

3249
02:32:30,500 --> 02:32:28,180
past conditions on Mars are much more

3250
02:32:33,719 --> 02:32:30,510
earth-like they'll be confirming that

3251
02:32:40,500 --> 02:32:33,729
this means that Mars was like earth for

3252
02:32:45,270 --> 02:32:40,510
a long time and so the next phase will

3253
02:32:48,210 --> 02:32:45,280
be in a more intense biological

3254
02:32:50,880 --> 02:32:48,220
investigation of Mars I missile I

3255
02:32:54,030 --> 02:32:50,890
believe I believe the this is the focus

3256
02:32:57,870 --> 02:32:54,040
will now shift finding extant Martian

3257
02:33:00,870 --> 02:32:57,880
life all these revelations have just

3258
02:33:03,719 --> 02:33:00,880
over the last you know 10 20 years about

3259
02:33:05,880 --> 02:33:03,729
Mars it's almost I think you know in 50

3260
02:33:08,250 --> 02:33:05,890
years time we may look back and you

3261
02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:08,260
could almost plot these points on a line

3262
02:33:13,440 --> 02:33:11,170
that just said this this is them can

3263
02:33:16,679 --> 02:33:13,450
then introducing what the new already

3264
02:33:20,340 --> 02:33:16,689
that it probably had life on it at some

3265
02:33:23,969 --> 02:33:20,350
point but I just gonna address jobs to

3266
02:33:27,450 --> 02:33:23,979
the public and it's just once you accept

3267
02:33:30,120 --> 02:33:27,460
this might be the key that it is drips

3268
02:33:32,160 --> 02:33:30,130
and drabs deliberately then we can

3269
02:33:34,679 --> 02:33:32,170
almost come to expect these

3270
02:33:36,690 --> 02:33:34,689
announcements from us and asked from

3271
02:33:39,360 --> 02:33:36,700
NASA ah sorry on quite a regular

3272
02:33:42,420 --> 02:33:39,370
timescale maybe even speeding up to the

3273
02:33:43,560 --> 02:33:42,430
conclusion and it kind of feels that

3274
02:33:47,550 --> 02:33:43,570
like that to me

3275
02:33:51,600 --> 02:33:47,560
I believe I agree with you I believe the

3276
02:33:54,990 --> 02:33:51,610
pace is accelerating I believe within

3277
02:33:57,690 --> 02:33:55,000
five years they will it will become a

3278
02:34:00,360 --> 02:33:57,700
accepted fact that there was past life

3279
02:34:03,390 --> 02:34:00,370
and the first president micro whole life

3280
02:34:05,219 --> 02:34:03,400
on Mars within five years but they

3281
02:34:07,350 --> 02:34:05,229
wouldn't reveal even if they knew it

3282
02:34:11,880 --> 02:34:07,360
that there was a current civilization

3283
02:34:17,700 --> 02:34:11,890
there even if it was a base no no that's

3284
02:34:20,670 --> 02:34:17,710
too threatening they that though my

3285
02:34:25,940 --> 02:34:20,680
understanding would you know my best

3286
02:34:28,350 --> 02:34:25,950
guess let's say would be that the UFO

3287
02:34:31,380 --> 02:34:28,360
cover-up is going to be the last part of

3288
02:34:36,390 --> 02:34:31,390
this cover-up to disappear the Mars

3289
02:34:38,640 --> 02:34:36,400
cover-up is ending but the UFO cover-up

3290
02:34:41,700 --> 02:34:38,650
will probably continue for a long time

3291
02:34:50,310 --> 02:34:41,710
okay what are they covering up with

3292
02:34:52,260 --> 02:34:50,320
regard to UFOs oh all I can say is I

3293
02:34:54,929 --> 02:34:52,270
wrote a science fiction novel called

3294
02:34:57,630 --> 02:34:54,939
Morning Star past collapse of the UFO

3295
02:35:01,500 --> 02:34:57,640
cover-up run under a pen name called

3296
02:35:03,270 --> 02:35:01,510
Victor's noir guard and in that science

3297
02:35:06,150 --> 02:35:03,280
fiction novel the United States

3298
02:35:09,750 --> 02:35:06,160
government had entered into a secret

3299
02:35:13,440 --> 02:35:09,760
treaty with one of the UFO groups called

3300
02:35:15,360 --> 02:35:13,450
the greys and I imagine that Close

3301
02:35:17,130 --> 02:35:15,370
Encounters of the Third Kind that movie

3302
02:35:20,250 --> 02:35:17,140
imagined that event and actually

3303
02:35:24,579 --> 02:35:20,260
occurred and that the u.s. government

3304
02:35:26,590 --> 02:35:24,589
then in return for promised technology

3305
02:35:31,899 --> 02:35:26,600
and allow the aliens to have a face on

3306
02:35:35,199 --> 02:35:31,909
earth and and in the novel this was a

3307
02:35:39,039 --> 02:35:35,209
historic occurrence and that had gone

3308
02:35:43,179 --> 02:35:39,049
very very badly the aliens had displayed

3309
02:35:47,979 --> 02:35:43,189
very bad faith they hadn't given us any

3310
02:35:50,710 --> 02:35:47,989
of the technologies they promised and in

3311
02:35:55,090 --> 02:35:50,720
fact they were misbehaving very badly on

3312
02:35:58,929 --> 02:35:55,100
earth so the whole thing collapses in

3313
02:36:02,789 --> 02:35:58,939
the book in the novel of the real

3314
02:36:05,349 --> 02:36:02,799
secrets of the UFO cover-up is if the

3315
02:36:07,359 --> 02:36:05,359
there are hostile intelligences out

3316
02:36:08,949 --> 02:36:07,369
there that's the real thing they are

3317
02:36:11,769 --> 02:36:08,959
covering up they're afraid the public

3318
02:36:13,960 --> 02:36:11,779
will not be able to handle it the public

3319
02:36:16,449 --> 02:36:13,970
will fall into despair and will be

3320
02:36:19,929 --> 02:36:16,459
conquered so you mean we make ourselves

3321
02:36:22,719 --> 02:36:19,939
vulnerable by the mere act of panic we

3322
02:36:25,269 --> 02:36:22,729
will fall into despair and lose our will

3323
02:36:27,219 --> 02:36:25,279
to fight and the aliens will take over

3324
02:36:28,630 --> 02:36:27,229
let me throw this out because we

3325
02:36:31,029 --> 02:36:28,640
discussed it before and it's got to be

3326
02:36:33,550 --> 02:36:31,039
the last comment or maybe they are

3327
02:36:36,399 --> 02:36:33,560
creating a race of hybrids half-human

3328
02:36:39,849 --> 02:36:36,409
half-alien and their infiltrate society

3329
02:36:42,729 --> 02:36:39,859
in the novel the government discovers

3330
02:36:45,010 --> 02:36:42,739
that the hybrids are to replace us that

3331
02:36:48,639 --> 02:36:45,020
the aliens intend to colonize the earth

3332
02:36:50,979 --> 02:36:48,649
with the hybrids you see a Man of Steel

3333
02:36:52,659 --> 02:36:50,989
what happened is General Zod wanted to

3334
02:36:54,489 --> 02:36:52,669
terraform earth just get rid of the

3335
02:36:58,449 --> 02:36:54,499
Earthlings and they take over not

3336
02:37:01,389 --> 02:36:58,459
gradually on something like the scenario

3337
02:37:03,939 --> 02:37:01,399
the government discovers and so in

3338
02:37:06,250 --> 02:37:03,949
response someone within the UFO cover-up

3339
02:37:09,849 --> 02:37:06,260
starts leaking all he's got documents of

3340
02:37:11,769 --> 02:37:09,859
these two women journalists and they

3341
02:37:13,960 --> 02:37:11,779
blow the lid off the UFO cover-up they

3342
02:37:16,929 --> 02:37:13,970
they manage to bring it down within six

3343
02:37:20,199 --> 02:37:16,939
months I wonder how that will play in

3344
02:37:21,519 --> 02:37:20,209
reality dr. John Brandenburg can you

3345
02:37:24,399 --> 02:37:21,529
tell my listeners where they can check

3346
02:37:28,840 --> 02:37:24,409
out more of the stuff that you do okay

3347
02:37:30,969 --> 02:37:28,850
yeah the theme of the UFO cover-up novel

3348
02:37:35,649 --> 02:37:30,979
is absolute secrecy creates absolute

3349
02:37:38,080 --> 02:37:35,659
power but ours not science fiction real

3350
02:37:40,020 --> 02:37:38,090
science we'll check it out

3351
02:37:42,010 --> 02:37:40,030
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3352
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3377
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3378
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3379
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3380
02:39:00,390 --> 02:38:57,490
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3381
02:39:03,380 --> 02:39:00,400
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3382
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